Tory leadership battle (plus highly biased guide to it!)

[Provost Harrison]

Kenneth Clarke would probably win the next election if he became leader of the Tories...

[Whaleboy]

Undoubtably because i'll be voting for him!

[RGBVideo]

Kenneth Clarke would probably win the next election if he became leader of the Tories...

Tories would be voting for Blair, then.

[Sandman]

I wouldn't vote for Fat Ken. Apart from getting slum dwellers in Karachi and Bogota hooked on fags, his advanced age and unhealthy lifestyle means that he could drop dead at any time. Not a good quality in a PM.

I'll probably vote for Chuckles Kennedy again.

[Sandman]

However, after eight years, the Tories are still clueless at opposition. Not rottweilers but pugs, they couldn't threaten a flea. When Tories lose office, they tend to lose interest and do politics part time while making money in the City. Most do opposition on autopilot, hiring underlings to churn out 10 useless press releases a day commenting snidely on whatever the government does. They initiate nothing, investigate nothing, expose nothing unless it's given to them on a plate. Their thinktanks, which could take up the hard slog of pursuing Labour down every rabbit hole, prefer blue-skies barminess because it's more fun to opine endlessly on flat taxes and other vote-losing nonsense.

Polly Toynbee

[lord of the mark]

molly wobbles - what exactly is wrong with a christian or Jew wanting atheists to become muslims?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

What's wrong with it is that it needs a thread of its own.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
molly wobbles - what exactly is wrong with a christian or Jew wanting atheists to become muslims?

In what context ?


And by the way- it's 'molly bloom'- loony of the murk, o.k. ?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Update-

Predictably enough, Rifkind has dropped out. With Davis losing ground to Cameron, it's starting to turn entertainingly nasty. Cameron is being grilled about whether he used cannabis as a student, and is refusing to confirm or deny.

[Drogue]

It's not about whether he used cannabis. The question was whether he took a "class A" drug. I completely agree with his point that politicians should be allowed a private life before they join politics, but there's a big difference between "experimented with a few spliffs" and "had a coke problem". I don't think he should be forced to say, but it will harm him with Tory party members, who decide whether he gets to lead the party. They're not known for their progressive views on drugs...

[Jon Miller]

you should forget about him as quick as possible

look at what having a leader with a past coke problem has done for us

JM

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by molly bloom



In what context ?


And by the way- it's 'molly bloom'- loony of the murk, o.k. ?

The Murk will triumph in the end, or im not its loony

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
you should forget about him as quick as possible

look at what having a leader with a past coke problem has done for us

I'm not saying he had a coke problem, just that the question he refused to answer related to class A drugs, not to cannabis. It's doesn't change the principle, but it may affect the minds of many of the people who get to decide if he leads the Tory party.

[lord of the mark]

here was the context

"I've read comments on a Tory blog saying they would "rather people were Muslim than atheist,"

Thats all. For all we know the commentator could have been a rabbi from Gateshead, extrapolating Maimonides (who thought it was better to be Muslim than Christian - something about trinitarianism and idolatry)(franz Rosenzweig was much more positive about Christianity than Islam, but he was perhaps unique among Jewish philosophers in his philo-christianity)

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Take it to another thread.