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  • #46
    Originally posted by C0ckney
    seeing as both molly and agathon have dismissed them, i think we can all look forward to a tory government after the next election.

    Wow.


    That Oscar Wilde summer school sure paid off.
    Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

    ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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    • #47
      that's ok molly, i'll let you reply again when you'e thought of a decent come back.
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • #48
        Originally posted by C0ckney
        that's ok molly, i'll let you reply again when you'e thought of a decent come back.

        No, you first. Everyone has to begin somewhere, so now's your chance.

        By the way, where did I

        dismiss them
        ?

        I've simply suggested a way they could garner some more support from people who share some of their ideas on capital and corporal punishment.

        That's a rebranding suggestion, not a dismissal.
        Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

        ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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        • #49
          nah labour has got a lot of the muslim vote sewn up already, whether they like it or not.

          He criticised the government's insistence that the current postal voting system was working, adding: "Anybody who has sat through the case I have just tried and listened to evidence of electoral fraud that would disgrace a banana republic would find this statement surprising."

          Mr Mawrey had heard petitions lodged against six Labour councillors, who all strenuously deny that they abused the postal ballot system
          "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

          "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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          • #50
            I hate to say it, but Molly does actually have a point here, and not just on the fringes of party and faith. I've read comments on a Tory blog saying they would rather people were Muslim than atheist, and a Spectator article sided with Muslims 'exasperated' at western depravity and decadence.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Agathon
              I hate to say it...
              why?
              Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
              "I don't believe in giving scripting languages because the only additional power they give users is the power to create bugs." - Mike Breitkreutz, Firaxis

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              • #52


                Gervaise Brooke-Hampster appears to be mounting an impressive grassroots push for the leadership. Fresh off winning the "Upperclass Twit of the Year" award, he could be a dark horse in this election battle..

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                • #53
                  Smile
                  For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                  But he would think of something
                  "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Agathon
                    I hate to say it, but the Tories are irrelevant. They have no idea of how to run a modern society or economy
                    When did that stop anyone from getting elected?



                    Kenneth Clarke looks like a dead codfish. Maybe he should start fishing for votes in the North Sea?
                    Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                    It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                    The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                    • #55
                      Latest news-

                      Davis and Cameron are pooh-poohing suggestions that Clarke would be the popular choice with the wider electorate (and we all laughed).

                      Clarke is trying to convince people that he isn't really pro-Europe (and we all laughed).

                      Rifkind is attempting to inject some momentum into his bid by embarking on a nationwide tour (and we all laughed).

                      Fox is snapping up all the spin doctors he can find to run his campaign (and we all retched).

                      Meanwhile, Michael Ashcroft is among the Tory grandees criticising the proposed selections scheme for being undemocratic. This places him squarely at odds with Michael Howard. They're splitting again.

                      Latest betting: David Davis 8/13, Ken Clarke 5/2, David Cameron 11/2, Liam Fox 20/1, Malcolm Rifkind 33/1
                      The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Cort Haus
                        I hate to say it, but Molly does actually have a point here, and not just on the fringes of party and faith. I've read comments on a Tory blog saying they would rather people were Muslim than atheist,
                        why is that so terrible? Id say from the point of view of the Jewish religion, for ex, it would be true that gentiles should be muslims rather than atheists.

                        Muslim != terrorist. Or even terrorist sympathizer, necessarily.
                        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                        • #57
                          I would prefer people to be muslim or jewish over most other religions...

                          (in my opinion, broadly, the ammount of truth goes like this:
                          Adventist (still not all that great, but number one so far)
                          Other Protestants...
                          Catholics/Weird 'Protestants' (like Mormons) (Weird Protestants might be lower)
                          Jews
                          Muslims
                          getting pretty unknown down here.. I think I would rate religions like Bhuddism and the like as higher..
                          down at the bottom would be ones like the ancient Egyptian religions and the like)

                          JM
                          Jon Miller-
                          I AM.CANADIAN
                          GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                          • #58
                            You made the baby Osiris cry.
                            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                            • #59
                              Classis Apolyton.

                              From the relative merits and odds of Tory leadership candidates to 'which religion has the most truth' in only two posts

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                              • #60
                                "Tory merits" and "religious truth" are joined in oxymoronicity.
                                Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                                It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                                The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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