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  • #91
    Originally posted by Sava
    I don't blame Kanye for his outburst. While I don't think Dubya is David Duke... I certainly don't think he's going to lose any sleep over any of the people dying in New Orleans.
    Is it a racial thing or a class thing? There may be a majority of blacks in N.O., but I'd bet there are lots of poor whites in the areas outside N.O. that aren't getting help. I like that Kayne kicked W in the nuts, but I don't like turning this thing into a racial issue. I just thought the look on Meyers' face wass priceless.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Winston
      Bush can't do a thing right.

      Gospel of the left. And yet they claim to reject all religious dogma.

      If he took an opposite course of action, it'd still be his fault somehow. This perpetual Bush-bashing is the greatest source of entertainment, or it would be if it wasn't so utterly pathetic.
      Yes, because as we all know Geronimo is such a die-hard socialist.
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      • #93
        Except that I responded to the OP, which went up 7 minutes prior.

        Thank you, come again.

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        • #94
          Winston, even Bush knows he screwed this one up, so you can't use the "left wing political ideaology" copout again.

          You too Sprayber.
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          • #95
            Sprayber, it is incorrect to say that the Feds have never acted quickly in a crisis. It is also incorrect to say that locals have always handled these problems. The Federal response to the mulitple hurricanes in Florida last year was nothing less than amazing. Even before the storms hit, the Feds were ready to come in and help, and within hours of the storm's passing, they were there.

            As to the second, the Feds have authority once the locals invite them in. If New Orleans and Lousiana didn't ask for help, the Feds could not intervene. The mayor of New Orleans, however, has been begging for help. Once that call is made, the Fed's should have been all over this like ants on a picnic.

            Now, I'm not laying 100% of the blame on the Feds. I'm not even sure a majority of the blame goes to the Feds. But certainly, a very great deal of blame does go to them. Before the storm hit, the Louisiana National Guard should have been mobilized and in place. They should have had equipment on hand to start repaing the levies should they break or be topped. I-10 should have been made a one way highway in order to get as many people out as possible. Busses, trucks, trains, and planes should have been commandeered to get the poor and sick and prisoners out of the city. There's a lot they could have done to minimize the disaster.

            None of that takes away from the President's failure to lead.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Winston
              Except that I responded to the OP, which went up 7 minutes prior.

              Thank you, come again.
              Clearly your cluelessness extends to the fact I wasn't referring to who you responded to, but that certain people of a not-so-leftish persuasion, in fact a LOT of people, agree that the Feds (FUBARed*SNAFUed)^2 this one.

              And thank you, I will come again.
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              I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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              • #97
                Ok, if certain non-leftist people fall for it, it must be true. Silly me.

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                • #98
                  I forgot to mention Geronimo is also easily fooled.
                  I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                  I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                  • #99
                    Honestly, I can't say I'm impressed by the leadership in this crisis. Nagin's very impassioned, but... I think he's cracked under the strain, and hasn't been able to rise to the occasion. Then again, when confronted with the fact that the city you led no longer exists, for all intents and purposes, I don't know a single person who would be able to keep functioning.

                    That doesn't excuse the apparent abdication of leadership by anybody else in a position of power.

                    While I can't say that I agree with what Kanye West has said (though, for some reason, I find it abso-****in'-lutely funny, largely because of how surreal it is)... I'm just very afraid at how many people will buy that line.
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                    • It is surreal, huh, I was thinking something along that lines but that's the perfect words to describe it.

                      While Kayne's words were very strong, I do believe there is a tremendous amount of instituational racism towards blacks in Louisiana specifically.

                      BUt that clip was funny as hell.
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                      • Most of the police is white, most of the people left in NO are black, and the poorest of them. They have never trusted the police and don't now either, which just adds to the tensions. Add to that drug users going without their fix for a few days, the availability of firearms to be looted and you're looking at a recipe for trouble.

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                        • Glad to see General Honore on the scene taking charge.

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                          • Originally posted by Wycoff


                            Is it a racial thing or a class thing? There may be a majority of blacks in N.O., but I'd bet there are lots of poor whites in the areas outside N.O. that aren't getting help. I like that Kayne kicked W in the nuts, but I don't like turning this thing into a racial issue. I just thought the look on Meyers' face wass priceless.
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                            • Actually, it's probably just a difference in terminology between the French AFP and the American AP. Assuming both organizations write their own captions, that is. If Yahoo did it for them, then it may indeed be racist.
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                              • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                                Actually, it's probably just a difference in terminology between the French AFP and the American AP. Assuming both organizations write their own captions, that is. If Yahoo did it for them, then it may indeed be racist.
                                It's not. The reporter actually saw the Black person take from a store, but didn't see the whites do the same, thus was unable to say for a fact that they had looted.
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