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  • Originally posted by Az
    Man, this would make an awesome Michael Bay movie.

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    • I think the government has been doing a good job. You have to remember that government facilities and infrustructure are just as mauled as the civilian. FEMA is already spending 500 million a day, and there are 7 US warships, including 3 large deck amphibs offshore.

      There are over three million victims of this storm, if all but an estimated 20,000 in the center of NO are being taken care of to some degree, that is an amazing success.
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      • So what caused these explosions? Looters setting fire to oil spills?
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        • There's a fire at a warehouse by the industrial railyard...nobody's sure how is started, or exactly what is in there that's going up.
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          • Originally posted by Park Avenue
            So what caused these explosions? Looters setting fire to oil spills?
            According to newspapers here, a chemical plant has caught fire.
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              Last edited by Solly; September 2, 2005, 08:26.
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              • I'd been asked to post this here by Ming. This is what happens when you equip a whole nation with guns. The situation just can not be managed. There's healthy distrust of government, now this has gone too far.

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                • Not sure there PA... in any nation, there are going to be weapons. Now, in anarchy situation like this, the strongest ones will rule, and rule with their twisted iron fist. This means, the looters have no opposion. No one even has marginal chance of defending their own property or house, or loved ones.

                  Of course, when everyone packs, it gets crazy. But if no one packs, then only the looters and criminals are packing.

                  THat's NOT good in anarchy, as we see they are not exactly pulling back with their ways, but only increasing, trying to capitalize on the situation, like the scum they are.

                  I would, at this stage, rather have my own weapon because no one can protect you except you yourself. Until situation gets stabilized. And it's mostly these criminals and gangsters who create the violence, at least have been, AFAIK. I'd rather have weapons myself too.
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                  • What do the anarchists and socialists have to say about this, anyway? There was and still is probably enough food in the area for everyone to survive. Why isn't everyone getting their share "according to need"?
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                    • Originally posted by Dis
                      anyone listening to the New Orleans mayor right now on CNN?

                      I can't blame him. His career is over anyways. It surely is over after these comments. He's even calling out his governor. He's cussin' up a storm. He's really pissed. Of course I don't exepct the governor will get re-elected after this either. Her career is hurtin. Not that careers matter in a crisis such as this. But I just thought I'd mention it. I'm always looking to the future.
                      Just heard some soundbytes from the mayor...he sounds pissed and desperate. Honestly, I think politically wise he would make it. He sounds like he doesn't give a damned about politics or whatever. He wants help and he's not giving a press brief.

                      All I heard him say is that he wants Greyhound busses in the city and he wants troops to restore order....(after that, it was cussing about how messed this situation is).








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                      • Originally posted by Park Avenue
                        What do the anarchists and socialists have to say about this, anyway? There was and still is probably enough food in the area for everyone to survive. Why isn't everyone getting their share "according to need"?
                        Lets not turn this thread into a red vs. blue thing...

                        It aint that simple, baby.
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                        • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                          I have little sympathy for thugs and criminals in general, and even less in survival situaions. People are dying because of these criminals action. This is a life or death situation for tens of thousands of people. These people have chosen death.

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                          • Wow. I had no idea it was this bad. I'm worried now. My father just left as a Red Cross Volunteer two days ago. I haven't heard from him for over a day.

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                            • Originally posted by Park Avenue
                              What do the anarchists and socialists have to say about this, anyway? There was and still is probably enough food in the area for everyone to survive. Why isn't everyone getting their share "according to need"?


                              That's what I kept saying to anarchist punks when debating the issue on domestic Swedish forums some years ago, but they refused to believe human nature was like this.
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                              • Originally posted by Dis
                                anyone listening to the New Orleans mayor right now on CNN?

                                I can't blame him. His career is over anyways.
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                                To be mayor over a city, you need a city...
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