looting

[Jack_www]

if you look at what is happening with New Orleans, most of the stuff in the stores in New Orleans is going to get damaged from the Flood waters or get stolen. It is all a total loss.

[SpencerH]

As I implied, I'm looking forward to the scenes of the looters trying to convince national guardsmen to allow them to bring their newly acquired big screen HDTV to the refugee centers that will need to be set up.

Its just stupid greed. These people know that nothing will happen to them for the time being so they have reverted to a baseline level of civilization. I wouldnt go so far as to advocate shooting a few looters (although I know people from the area who would) but I'm tempted sometimes.

[Pyrodrew]

Originally posted by Sava
I doubt if any PC component packaging is waterproof.

My video card (BFG Geforce 6800 Ultra) was just encase between two pieces of plastic. Not even in a bag.

Mine was not. Several of my PC hardware and software components were sealed in plastic bags that would be waterproof. And I don't live in an area vulnerable to a flood, where a store might take further precautions.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Situation A: You don't steal the stuff. It's destroyed.

Situation B: You do steal it. It's not destroyed.

Clearly B is better than A, because you haven't hurt anyone and you have benefitted someone (yourself).

Gee, thanks for breaking it down for me like that. I'm so dumb, I didn't know what you meant.

The problem is, you're arguing that all property rights go out the window in the event of a natural disaster. Looting things like food and water is still illegal, it's just that there's overriding factors that make the enforcement of law counterproductive. By your logic, if there was a flood in your neighbourhood and you were hightailing it out of there, your neighbor with a big van would be perfectly justified to pull up to your house just when you're leaving and help himself to your TV, computer, CDs, art, photos, or anything else you chose to leave behind that would likely be destroyed by the water. In fact, not only is it justified, it's BETTER that he have those things!

[Kuciwalker]

The problem is, you're arguing that all property rights go out the window in the event of a natural disaster.

I'm arguing property rights are irrelevant when the property is going to be destroyed anyway.

[Kontiki]

So you think the scenario I laid out is fine? It's better for your opportunistic neighbor to profit from the disaster than to have your stuff destroyed, along with everyone else's? If you say yes, then you may want to consider two things:

1) When you and your other neighbors eventually return home to see what you can salvage, you'll sure be glad when the neighbor that took all your stuff has no reason to give any of it back to you.

2) If you are a shopowner of say, and electroics store, it's much better for insurance purposes to have all your stuff carted away rather than be able to show at least some semblance of what your inventory used to be.

[Kuciwalker]

So you think the scenario I laid out is fine? It's better for your opportunistic neighbor to profit from the disaster than to have your stuff destroyed, along with everyone else's?

Yes.

1) When you and your other neighbors eventually return home to see what you can salvage, you'll sure be glad when the neighbor that took all your stuff has no reason to give any of it back to you.

Considering you wouldn't have it otherwise either, I don't see the problem. You're no worse off.

2) If you are a shopowner of say, and electroics store, it's much better for insurance purposes to have all your stuff carted away rather than be able to show at least some semblance of what your inventory used to be.

?

Most stores have computerized inventories.

[Az]

The problem is, you're arguing that all property rights go out the window in the event of a natural disaster. Looting things like food and water is still illegal, it's just that there's overriding factors that make the enforcement of law counterproductive. By your logic, if there was a flood in your neighbourhood and you were hightailing it out of there, your neighbor with a big van would be perfectly justified to pull up to your house just when you're leaving and help himself to your TV, computer, CDs, art, photos, or anything else you chose to leave behind that would likely be destroyed by the water. In fact, not only is it justified, it's BETTER that he have those things!

A good neighbor will lend you the truck and help you move it away. But better him than nobody, sure.

[Dis]

why are there so many cars left in the city?

I think the people without cars should have stole the cars left in the city to get out of the city

Like I said, for a disaster this bad the looting doesn't bother me. All the merchandise would be a total loss anyways. The goverment will reimburse them for all of it.

[alva]

So racism's gone in the US, is it?

[Dis]

that's already been posted in the other thread. But I find it humorous.

[Winston]

He does look more like your average looter though, with the giant garbage bag and all.

And as was already pointed out, the two texts are from two different agencies. I see nothing racist about this at all. Hypersensitivity on the part of some folks here, yes. "Racism", sorry - check back tomorrow.

[Lancer]

Have you been watching the tube at all? I see white people in choppers and boats saving black people again and again. I've been watching for two days and I just saw my first whitey get saved. Also, keep in mind that if these places are anything like where I grew up in Jersey, if those same white people had gone to these places in normal times their lives would be in serious danger...

Racism goes both ways, but I'll tell you this, blacks that come to our mostly white Oregon town are not in any more danger than the rest of us. There are blacks that live here in safety.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Winston
He does look more like your average looter though, with the giant garbage bag and all.

And as was already pointed out, the two texts are from two different agencies. I see nothing racist about this at all. Hypersensitivity on the part of some folks here, yes. "Racism", sorry - check back tomorrow.

hypersensitivity my ass...

any story of looting?

all black people...

pictures of white people with stuff?

oh they are surviving with their belongings or "finding" stuff as the pic suggests.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by alva
So racism's gone in the US, is it?

Notice they're from different sources, so it doesn't really mean anything.