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  • #106
    Originally posted by Urban Ranger
    I found it staggering that some people hold property rights higher than the survival of fellow human beings.
    Exactly, if you need fresh water food, medicine, etc. in a situation like in NO you have to do what you have to do to survive. if that means looting grocery stores, so be it. as for the idiots grabbing TVs and whatsuch, so what, the stuff would of been riuned anyways, in a situation like this it doesn't hurt anyone.

    Libbies and Conservatives fretting about property rights in a situation like this:

    Slippery slope arguments:

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    • #107
      What is bizarre about the looting is that I wonder what these people think they will do with their cartload of Walmart property as they move it through the flooded streets to their flooded house with no electricity?
      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
      If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
      Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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      • #108
        Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
        Sorry Kuci the city aint going to be under water hun.. It is under water now. For the record I dont care if they do it. It has no affect on me whats so ever, I just said I wouldnt do it. The folks doing it have to live with their actions. I do hope that the flooding receeds soon.
        Just how is the water going to recede from a bowl that is beneath sea level?
        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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        • #109
          Originally posted by Boris Godunov


          Just how is the water going to recede from a bowl that is beneath sea level?


          duh

          jesus
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #110
            BTW, several reports said that the National Guard was siphoning gas out of vehicles in the streets, as they are running out of fuel.

            OMFG! Teh National Guard is stealing people's gas! THIEVES!
            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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            • #111
              I would like to see a figure just for vehicular losses. There must be 10,000 of cars underwater right now.
              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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              • #112
                Originally posted by Patroklos
                I would like to see a figure just for vehicular losses. There must be 10,000 of cars underwater right now.
                in a city of over 1 million?

                much more than that I bet
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #113
                  Would anyone care to gather statistics on number of people looting living essentials such as food, water, and yes, diapers vs. looting of luxury items?

                  I have 5 dollars burning a hole in my pocket that I'd like to wager on this answer.
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                  "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #114
                    Originally posted by SlowwHand
                    Would anyone care to gather statistics on number of people looting living essentials such as food, water, and yes, diapers vs. looting of luxury items?

                    I have 5 dollars burning a hole in my pocket that I'd like to wager on this answer.
                    Personally, I'm wondering about how money people are actually looting, period.

                    I suspect the number of actual looters is low.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #115
                      Originally posted by SlowwHand
                      Would anyone care to gather statistics on number of people looting living essentials such as food, water, and yes, diapers vs. looting of luxury items?
                      Again I'd like to point out that it doesn't matter either way. If the goods are going to be destroyed, whoever saves them deserves them.

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                      • #116
                        Originally posted by Pyrodrew
                        Are you saying the plastic wouldn't preserve the merchandise during "complete flooding"?
                        It would probably float away or something.

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                        • #117
                          Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                          I found it staggering that some people hold property rights higher than the survival of fellow human beings.
                          "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                          —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                          • #118
                            Again I'd like to point out that it doesn't matter either way. If the goods are going to be destroyed, whoever saves them deserves them.
                            It just leads to a greater degree of chaos, that leads to even less of an ability to help.
                            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                            • #119
                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                              Yeah, this should be obvious, even in the case of gratuitous theft with no other justification. Say you have a shop that sells expensive computer components (RAM, video cards, etc.) Better for the stuff to be saved than for it to all go to waste, even if it goes to someone who doesn't deserve it.
                              That's some of the most rediculous logic I've ever seen. How is it better to save that type of stuff? It's not helping someone in their time of need (unless you're looking at it as a barter item), it's not benefiting the shopowner and it's not benefiting the manufacturer. It's pure, unjustifiable theft.
                              "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                              "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
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                              • #120


                                Situation A: You don't steal the stuff. It's destroyed.

                                Situation B: You do steal it. It's not destroyed.

                                Clearly B is better than A, because you haven't hurt anyone and you have benefitted someone (yourself).

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