looting

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Here's some interesting grist for this thread's mill,

Salon reported today that the Blogisphere is up in arms over two photos that appeared on Yahoo News. One, showing a black guy waist deep in water carrying food, describes him as having looted a grocery store; the other, showing a white guy waist deep in water, describes him as having found food.



I know, I know: Blogs. I know, I know: Salon. But...

I was just watching CNN, and they were doing a news story on looting. And, my hand to God, this is how it was edited:

VOICEOVER: Looting in New Orleans, blah blah blah
IMAGE: Black people with food supplies

VOICEOVER: Of course, some people are just taking what they need to survive...
IMAGE: White woman with food supplies

VOICEOVER: Still, police have orders to shoot looters on sight blah blah blah
IMAGE: Black people with food supplies



I swear I'm not making that up. So there's your answer: it's looting when black folks do it.

Anyway, here's the Salon story, with relevant photos: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...rsy/index.html

I dont care if the folks are purple, they are all looting. Everyone wants to cry racism when it comes to this. Most folks like myself dont care what the idiot reporting is saying if pics are involved. The whites and blacks are all looting. And now are terrorizing the ravaged city which is just as bad.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski

I dont care if the folks are purple, they are all looting. Everyone wants to cry racism when it comes to this. Most folks like myself dont care what the idiot reporting is saying if pics are involved. The whites and blacks are all looting. And now are terrorizing the ravaged city which is just as bad.

Well, Mrs. T, I may not agree, but at least you're a more unbiased observer than CNN.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
I dont care if the folks are purple, they are all looting. Everyone wants to cry racism when it comes to this. Most folks like myself dont care what the idiot reporting is saying if pics are involved. The whites and blacks are all looting. And now are terrorizing the ravaged city which is just as bad.

You're missing the trees for the forest. The point of the previous observation isn't to show that looting should be okay, but rather that our supposedly un-racist society actually still is racist. Whites and Blacks doing the exact same thing, but the Blacks are committing a crime, the whites are "just trying to survive." BTW, this is how Black people are treated all the time.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Normal rules of law and order don't apply in a situation like that.

They should. The problem is not that these people have abandoned law and order, but that law and order have abandoned them.

[Ted Striker]

No diagreement here.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


They should. The problem is not that these people have abandoned law and order, but that law and order have abandoned them.

What a crock of ****!

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


You're missing the trees for the forest. The point of the previous observation isn't to show that looting should be okay, but rather that our supposedly un-racist society actually still is racist. Whites and Blacks doing the exact same thing, but the Blacks are committing a crime, the whites are "just trying to survive." BTW, this is how Black people are treated all the time.

Che The forest is made up of nothing but trees. I am sorry but once you have seen one tree and are surrounded by them they all are trees and look the same.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


You're missing the trees for the forest. The point of the previous observation isn't to show that looting should be okay, but rather that our supposedly un-racist society actually still is racist. Whites and Blacks doing the exact same thing, but the Blacks are committing a crime, the whites are "just trying to survive." BTW, this is how Black people are treated all the time.

You know, sometimes, it's just coincidence that things like Rufus' example happen.

What does it say about people, that they see something in there that may not have been intentional?

ACK!

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
Che The forest is made up of nothing but trees. I am sorry but once you have seen one tree and are surrounded by them they all are trees and look the same.

Well, that's a problem when the trees are actually different.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Tuberski


You know, sometimes, it's just coincidence that things like Rufus' example happen.

What does it say about people, that they see something in there that may not have been intentional?

ACK!

I actually think the instance of the photo captions is better explained by the fact that they came from 2 different news services -- one American, one European -- than by any racist conspiracy.

But the CNN footage? There's no such thing as "coincidental" editing, as anyone who's spent time in an editing room knows. Every choice is very deliberate. That's not to say that the people who edited the CNN piece weer consciously being racist. But the fact remains that, when they asked themselves, "what footage here says 'looting' to me?" they went with footage of black folks (who were not, in the footage, seen looting -- just carrying goods); and when those same editors asked themselves, "what footage here says 'just surviving' to me?" they went with the white woman. It may have been unconscious racism, but its still racism.

As for what it says about me? It says that I spent over ten years teaching media studies at the university level, and tend to have a sharper-than-average eye for this kind of thing.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


I actually think the instance of the photo captions is better explained by the fact that they came from 2 different news services -- one American, one European -- than by any racist conspiracy.

But the CNN footage? There's no such thing as "coincidental" editing, as anyone who's spent time in an editing room knows. Every choice is very deliberate. That's not to say that the people who edited the CNN piece weer consciously being racist. But the fact remains that, when they asked themselves, "what footage here says 'looting' to me?" they went with footage of black folks (who were not, in the footage, seen looting -- just carrying goods); and when those same editors asked themselves, "what footage here says 'just surviving' to me?" they went with the white woman. It may have been unconscious racism, but its still racism.

As for what it says about me? It says that I spent over ten years teaching media studies at the university level, and tend to have a sharper-than-average eye for this kind of thing.

"Tuberski swings and misses, STRIKE THREE!!!!!! BATTER OUT!!!!"



ACK!

[Theben]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly

As for what it says about me? It says that I spent over ten years teaching media studies at the university level, and tend to have a sharper-than-average eye for this kind of thing.

No, it says that you're a commie liberal who hates America.

[chequita guevara]

Your avatar isn't dancing anymore.

[Winston]

It's moving. I think the other part of your brain just stopped working too.

[Ted Striker]

It is for me.

Maybe you got it cached or something in your browser commie.