New Orleans and Global Warming

[mitch]

Originally posted by DanS
Yeh, sounds like the folks of New Orleans will have to spend more money on their levees. It isn't my real estate, dude. If they choose to put more money into the pockets of their corrupt politicians rather than into levees, there's really nothing I can do about it.

You have some of the most bizzare and irrational reasoning. This storm is predicted to cause around 25 billion in insurance damage alone and you don't think that the Federal government should have taken preventive measures by giving them a little more funding?

http://www.kvue.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/082905dntexafterkatrina.31f1021.html

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/aug2005/nf20050830_8693_db035.htm

http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=020000&biid=2005083040798

Do me a favor and go to Google news and type in "Katrina Economy" and see what all comes up.

edit: Use this link otherwise a couple of those articles might require registration.

[DanS]

The people of NO and the surrounding areas would be greatly more screwed than the rest of the country. Therefore, I expect them to act according to their informed interests.

[DanS]

This storm is predicted to cause around 25 billion in insurance damage alone and you don't think that the Federal government should have taken preventive measures by giving them a little more funding?

No. The insurance companies can handle it. That's what they're there for. If the premiums become too much, maybe there will be a particularly clear trade-off for the people of New Orleans of investment in flood control or paying sky high premiums (or abandoning their city, if that's what they see fit to do).

[DRoseDARs]

The city of Washington D.C. should use only its money - collected from the people living in that city AND NOT from federal coffers since the rest of the nation's taxpayers don't live there - to pay for their own security. Everybody knows that D.C. is just a terrorist attack waiting to happen, but why should anyone else have to pay for their preparations. The people living there knowingly do so at their own peril and as such should pay for their own security on their own dime, not ours. A major attack in the city will likely cause billions of dollars in damage, but no federal dollars should be given to fund preventative measures. The insurance companies can handle it. That's what they're there for.
[/DanS]

[DanS]

Imran tried to use that line and it's still a lame-ass argument. DC is a federal city, as set forth in the constitution. The people in DC vote at the discretion of the congress, for one. DC's spending is approved or amended by the congress as it sees fit. It was done that way to protect the power of the states. There are trade-offs with which New Orleans doesn't have to deal.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Any more dumb statements from you, Dan?

The dumb people are those that put their life savings into a place that is below sea level and then are confused when mother nature kicks them in the balls. Move the the hills man

[Sprayber]

I guess I do feel sorry for those born there and who really can't move but after seeing people get flooded out every few years and still not take the hint, it has kind of hardend me against feeling a lot of sympathy for them.

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by DanS
Imran tried to use that line and it's still a lame-ass argument. DC is a federal city, as set forth in the constitution. The people in DC vote at the discretion of the congress, for one. DC's spending is approved or amended by the congress as it sees fit. It was done that way to protect the power of the states. There are trade-offs with which New Orleans doesn't have to deal.

Sorry, but there's still millions of USAmericans who don't live there and aren't subject to the risks of living there. I still don't see why the people living there get to suck off our collective teat when they should be sucking on their own.
[/DanS]

[Lefty Scaevola]

New Orleans has an intractible problem unrelated to climate. The Mississipi delta is a loose delta still compacting (and lowering) under its own weight, the ground under New Orleans is simply shrinking in volume. With out new deposits of silt and crud, it will just naturally sink below water level. In the built up and leveed areas there are no new deposits, and they will continue to sink. Skyscrapers and other heavy buldings or infra structure just speed this up. Parts of New Orleans are already 10 feet below sea level. There is currently no pratical way to stop the sinking.

[Agathon]

See I told you that Stalin was right. People like DanS are just incorrigible and will have to be dispensed with when the revolution comes...

[DanS]

I've said my piece about this and so I think I'll stop posting in this thread. When this thread got going, it looked like the New Orleans levees were going to hold. Since a major levee broke this morning, it looks like the town is going to be under water. I don't feel like kicking them while they're down. My sister's in-laws might not have much of their houses to come back to (all insured, thank God).

[CerberusIV]

Originally posted by DanS
My sister's in-laws might not have much of their houses to come back to (all insured, thank God).

I wouldn't be too confident in the insurance companies. They'll pay out this time but then the bean counters will start doing their thing. Flooding in many parts of the UK has increased in frequency and amount of damage over recent years to the point that premiums have stopped going up for quite a few people because no insurance company will cover their properties at any price any more.

If the insurers get the idea that this is going to become a regular occurrence into their heads they'll walk away. That would mean no insurance or a scheme backed by the federal government - probably cheaper to invest in prevention rather than pick up the pieces then.

[chequita guevara]

Flood insurnace is all Federal, since private companies won't insure against it. Most mortgage firms also require it when you buy a house in a flood plain, so most people have it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Flood insurnace is all Federal, since private companies won't insure against it. Most mortgage firms also require it when you buy a house in a flood plain, so most people have it.

They should just lose all their property to teach them a lesson instead of sucking off the rest of us. [/DanS]

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
They should just lose all their property to teach them a lesson instead of sucking off the rest of us. [/DandroidS]