New Orleans and Global Warming

[DanS]

New Orleans has rather elaborate (gold plated?) plans for flood control. The hands are always out for uncle sugar. Nothing is done if uncle sugar doesn't pay up.

If they were told that they had to pay for this themselves, they might have a more realistic set of priorities. Or maybe not. It's their city, not mine.

[Drake Tungsten]

What exactly do you think New Orleans would have done with increased hurricane prevention funds? Send them back? They may have increased the levees, or strengthened them, or done other projects to reduce any damage a hurricane may cause.

Who knows what they would have done? My point is that you have no evidence for your assertion, which is quite necessary for one to come to a rational conclusion on the merits of said assertion.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Who knows what they would have done? My point is that you have no evidence for your assertion, which is quite necessary for one to come to a rational conclusion on the merits of said assertion.

So... less funding for hurricane prevention would have no effect when a hurricane actually does come? When New Orleans is saying they don't have enough money for projects (as per the article)?

[DanS]

We have too much money! Don't give any money to us!

[Imran Siddiqui]

From the article:

Money is so tight the New Orleans district, which employs 1,300 people, instituted a hiring freeze last month on all positions. The freeze is the first of its kind in about 10 years, said Marcia Demma, chief of the Corps' Programs Management Branch.

Any more dumb statements from you, Dan?

[Drake Tungsten]

So... less funding for hurricane prevention would have no effect when a hurricane actually does come? When New Orleans is saying they don't have enough money for projects (as per the article)?

The weak point in New Orleans was the levees on Lake Pontchatrain. Unless you can show me how a lack of funding thwarted a plan to increase the height of those levees, I have no choice as a rational person but to treat your assertion as an unfounded one.

[DanS]

Yeh, sounds like the folks of New Orleans will have to spend more money on their levees. It isn't my real estate, dude. If they choose to put more money into the pockets of their corrupt politicians rather than into levees, there's really nothing I can do about it.

[Drake Tungsten]

It would be better if they got rid of as many levees as they could. Allowing the Mississippi to flood in the delta area would start to rebuild the natural hurricane defenses that have been steadily destroyed over the last few decades.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

So... less funding for hurricane prevention would have no effect when a hurricane actually does come? When New Orleans is saying they don't have enough money for projects (as per the article)?

The weak point in New Orleans was the levees on Lake Pontchatrain. Unless you can show me how a lack of funding thwarted a plan to increase the height of those levees, I have no choice as a rational person but to treat your assertion as an unfounded one.

NO has no money to hire new people and had construction projects on the Lake, given pitifully small funding, which was scheduled to be cut in fiscal year 2006 so they only had enough money to pay their employees rather than increasing the funding so they could engage in more construction to protect the city:

Construction generally has been on the decline for several years and focus has been on other projects in the Corps.

The district has identified $35 million in projects to build and improve levees, floodwalls and pumping stations in St. Bernard, Orleans, Jefferson and St. Charles parishes. Those projects are included in a Corps line item called Lake Pontchartrain, where funding is scheduled to be cut from $5.7 million this year to $2.9 million in 2006. Naomi said it's enough to pay salaries but little else.

[Drake Tungsten]

That's all you've got? I've found better evidence for your side in the past few minutes, and I'm not even trying...

edit: Charity for Imran...

[DanS]

NO has no money

That's BS. They've got money. Rather, it's a matter of their spending priorities, over which I have no control and should have no control.

[Imran Siddiqui]

There happens to be this political subdivision called a country, which deals with issues that have a significant impact on said country.

I suggest you look into it.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DanS
That's BS. They've got money. Rather, it's a matter of their spending priorities, over which I have no control and should have no control.

It's people like you what cause unrest.

You know, if you don't want to be part of this country, you can leave.

[DanS]

edit: Charity for Imran...

Yes, those are the rather elaborate plans that I referenced above. Notice that they aren't figuring out how to pay for this themselves. Always uncle sugar.

The $14 billion, 30-year Coast 2050 plan being pushed by a governor's committee and Louisiana members of Congress seeks to rebuild the coast

[chequita guevara]

Yeah, like the whole country won't be screwed if NO gets destroyed. You would starve your nose to spite your face.