Mayor Ray Nagin ordered an immediate evacuation Sunday for all of New Orleans

[Dis]

Originally posted by SpencerH
Amazing. Fox just had some 'doctor' on talking about what precautions people should take to prevent disease.

1 problem. Who the **** is listening to this font of knowledge? There is no power along the gulf coast! How would they boil the water? Rub two wet sticks together and hope!

Then she mentioned possible problems from mold when people are able to move back (some unknown time in the future)

MOLD! Like anyone cares about mold in New Orleans!

Damn Yankees

It's new orleans man. Most people smoke pot or some other smokable drug. They all have lighters in which to make fires.

[lord of the mark]

from the blog edan linked to

"Well that was interesting.

First of all here is the status of River Ridge (70123)...

Major, major debris, lots of trees down. Flooding - the usual suspects, all now drained. Streets are impassable either because of water yesterday or currently because of major oak trees down. Power poles broken in half fairly common. Power lines generally still up in the air not many on the ground. Most roofs INTACT. No window damage except where trees have dropped onto homes. Soniat Canal was a raging river (still high), but has not come over the banks. That water went somewhere, probably Kenner...

Evacuees have been calling me non-stop. Everyone is furious that all media coverage is of the CBD and French Quarter. But I can understand that. It may very well be a week before anyone can even get here.

Where I am, we are completely isolated, either by old growth oak trees coming down through houses onto the roads or by floodwaters.

The roads are IMPASSABLE. Jefferson Highway appears to be open.

Flooding here during the storm equals the May flood of a few years back.

Utilities other than BellSouth, cellular (though cell fading) and natural gas are unavailable - this includes power, cable, and WATER. Cell and telco lines are extremely difficult if not impossible to dial out, but calls do come in.

Walking the streets is very eerie. The only sounds are of wind and alarms going off in the distance. It's a struggle to walk around with all of the debris and water. After this post and especially tommorrow, I will venture further out on foot and report back. Today I will check out Citrus."

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Dis
Is this a good time to suggest that we move the city elsewhere? Why do we need New Orleans. Isn't it stupid to put cities on low ground?

Its where the most important inland waterway system in North America hits the sea. You cant not have a major seaport there.

and by the way, it looks like a fair amount of the infrastructure will survive, if damaged. The cost to rebuild will likely be less than the cost to build a new port city, or equivalently expand an existing one.


By the way, this is NOT good news for any countries that rely on grain imports. It IS potentially good news for countries like Brazil and Argentina that export grains and soybeans.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi
Water is now up to the base of the superdome...

Correction: Water is now inside the superdome...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Dis
It still has not killed tens of thousands of people. And that is what you posters here were predicting. I laugh at that number.

Nobody here predicted it would. One person posted an article with an estimate that the absolute worst-case scenario (direct hit by large cat. 5 storm) could possible kill tens of thousands. Nobody said it would definitely do so, however.

Even so, as Sprayber notes, the death toll could conceivably be in the thousands before too long. How does that jive with your "predictions" that not many people would die? Does it have to be 5 digits to be "many" for you?

And the predictions were the entire city of New Orleans would be destroyed. This has not happened. Sure they are under water. But eventually the water will be pumped out. And the buildings will be cleaned up and ready to use again. The city is by no means destroyed.

The only person who said that was fg. And regardless, the damage is massively catastrophic, as the reports are indicating. I'm wager well over 50% of the buildings will be in need of demolishing. Simply pumping water out doesn't fix everything, you know.

It's very early--and, frankly, utterly tasteless--to be crowing about anything, Dis. But tasteless seems to be your forte in this thread.

Everyone will still be alive (except for the people that are old and should be dead anyways)

Indeed.

[Kuciwalker]

Boris, why do you bother? Dis is an unapologetic troll.

[DanS]

Man, some of these pictures are just surreal...

David Prestback of Gulfport, Mississippi splashes water on a sea-lion washed ashore by Hurricane Katrina August 30, 2005. Hurricane Katrina damaged casinos in New Orleans and along Mississippi's Gulf Coast on Monday, possibly destroying some riverboats and leaving others closed for at least several more weeks, industry officials said on Tuesday. REUTERS/Frank Polich

[lightblue]

This thread (and most of the news coverage over here at least) seems to be concentrated on New Orleans (and the supposed 30 deaths in one appartment complex in Biloxi). Is there any news on how affected the surrounding areas are? I am guessing if New Orleans is sinking then a lot of the other towns on or near the delta are as well, do they have similar levee/pump systems? I am just worried that large aprts seem unaccounted for, so that the bodycount could rise rather swiftly once they're accounted for.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally posted by DanS
Man, some of these pictures are just surreal...

No kidding. They just had an interview in Biloxi, and there was a marching band on parade. The drums were the only ones with instruments, the rest of the band had chainsaws, crowbars, etc., and they were all in construction gear. I guess they were trying to get people out and working, get some spirit going, but...it seemed like the scope of the damage was too huge for people to be brought in by something like that.

[lord of the mark]

New Orleans Times Picayune:

"Patients at downtown New Orleans hospitals that are being inundated with flood waters are being evacuated to triage centers on the LSU and Nicholls State campus.

People who are being rescued off of roofs will also be sent by helicopter, ambulance or bus to the triage centers, said Dr. Jimmy Guidry, the state health officer. Medical experts will evaluate whether they can be sent to a regular shelter, a special needs shelter or a hospital.

Guidry said some of the people who had been trapped by the floodwaters are dehydrated or have other medical problems, but that some weathered their plights without health complications.

Earlier in the day there were 2,500 people in hospitals in the metropolitan New Orleans area, Guidry said. While the waters are receding in some areas, many patients need to be moved out of Charity, the Tulane hospital and University Medical Center, he said.

Fuel was brought to the hospitals earlier in the day to keep generators running, but some of the generators are at risk of being flooded out, he said.

Guidry confirmed reports that four people have died at the Superdome, which was used as a shelter of last resort. While one person reportedly fell, the others had been sick patients, including some on ventilators, he said. "

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by lightblue
This thread (and most of the news coverage over here at least) seems to be concentrated on New Orleans (and the supposed 30 deaths in one appartment complex in Biloxi). Is there any news on how affected the surrounding areas are? I am guessing if New Orleans is sinking then a lot of the other towns on or near the delta are as well, do they have similar levee/pump systems? I am just worried that large aprts seem unaccounted for, so that the bodycount could rise rather swiftly once they're accounted for.

from what I can ghater the two parishes (in Lousiana they have parishes, not counties) east of Orleans parish are the worst hit, but I think theyre relatively thinly populated compared to Orleans parish.

Also, while the neighboring parishes, like the Missippi coast ,were badly hit by the storm surge, I think its just New Orleans thats dealing with the followup levee breach.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Boris, why do you bother? Dis is an unapologetic troll.

I got him to go away once before...

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally posted by lightblue
This thread (and most of the news coverage over here at least) seems to be concentrated on New Orleans (and the supposed 30 deaths in one appartment complex in Biloxi). Is there any news on how affected the surrounding areas are? I am guessing if New Orleans is sinking then a lot of the other towns on or near the delta are as well, do they have similar levee/pump systems? I am just worried that large aprts seem unaccounted for, so that the bodycount could rise rather swiftly once they're accounted for.

Those 30 aren't supposed--the building collapsed on them.

There has been coverage of the surrounding area, particularly in Miss...and it isn't good. I think much of the focus is on NO because that's what's still getting worse, with more water coming in still.

They showed video of one of the casinos in southern Miss...it was a quarter mile away from it's moorings, split in half...

[Dis]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Boris, why do you bother? Dis is an unapologetic troll.

**** it. I will no longer post in this thread.

I can't believe I'm facing criticism for thinking about this positively. It's funny, my mother always tells me I'm too negative of a person. Which leads me to believe you guys are too negative.

Demolish 50% of the buildings? come on!! That's negative thinking.

[lord of the mark]

NO Times Picayune


"Only way out of New Orleans is West

The only way people can leave the city of New Orleans is to get on Crescent City Connection, head to the West Bank and take Highway 90 to Interstate 310 or I-10 on to Lafayette, authorities said this morning.

Interstate-10 eastbound, toward Slidell and the Gulf Coast, can't be traveled. Several sections of the Twin Spans have washed away and other sections of the bridge are structurally unsound.

The Lake Pontchartrain Causeway has been opened to police, fire and other emergency vehicles after an initial inspection concluded the 24-mile long bridge was sound, WWL Radio reported this morning.

No other vehicles will be allowed on the bridge; and access to St. Tammany Parish remains restricted. The condition of U.S. Highway 11 across the Lake is not known."