Apolyton Fantasy Football - League One - Discussion Thread

[Jonny]

Originally posted by duke o' york
Besides, I'm gambling that his legal team will come through in the end!

It's already a done deal, my friend. Something involving a Whizzinator(tm) back in May, IIRC.

[duke o' york]

He clearly hasn't got expensive enough lawyers. I'm sure that they can appeal for the rest of the season, and still make it that he plays.

[Zopperoni]

Johnny Cochran's dead, he has no more hope.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I bet that Griese has a better year than Bulger. IIRC, his passer rating last year was higher than Bulger's.

You have to be smoking crack!

So if Griese had the same attempts that Bulger did (plausible considering that he's the starter since the beginning of the year), he'd have 3,797.55 yards, 29 TDs, and 17 INTs. That's quite a good QB.

The thing is he didn't have the same # of attempts. Griese has not proven that he can do what Bulger has done. Remember Bulger had a passer rating of over 100 the year that he took over for Warner. You don't know what Griese is going to do this year. We'll just have to see. We do however know with a good deal of certaintly that Bulger is going to do at least as well as last year and probably better because the rest of the Rams offense is better. Kurtis and McDonald are in their third year and should improve a great deal over last year, and the Rams offensive line will definitely be good and get better during the year. Last year Bulger could only take three steps back during a good part of the season. That, and, Bulger has built up toughness and experience. If he can just get it in the red zone better he's going to be great this year, and so will the Rams.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I showed you the stats. Bulger has about 150 more yards if both have the same attempts and 3 less INTs. But Griese has EIGHT more TDs.

How am I on crack now?

[Kidlicious]

Read my addition to my last post. You are way too high on Griese. I'm going to remember what you said.

[reismark]

STARTERS
QB - Drew Brees, SD
RB - Edgerrin James, IND
RB - Clinton Portis, WAS
WR - Javon Walker - GB
WR - Andre Johnson - HOU
RB/WR - J.J. Arrington - ARI / Deion Branch - NE
TE - Todd Heap, BAL
K - Lawrence Tynes, KC (though maybe not for long...)
DEF - Pittsburgh

BENCH
QB - Eli Manning, NYG
QB - Steve McNair, TEN
RB - Michael Pittman, TB
WR - Rod Smith, DEN
TE - Ben Troupe, TEN
DEF - Denver

[Kidlicious]

Bulger played a full 13 games last season and Griese played a full 12, yet Bulger's fantasy points were 120 more than Griese's.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Griese actually started 10 games last year and played in 11. Bulger played in 14 games last year (and started all of them.. but left one after 4 attempts). The year before, Bulger had an 81.4 passer rating with less yards than last year and a lower completion percentage. His season last year was better than the year before.

Griese took over mid year, with a team with far less talent, and was a better QB than Bulger, as his passer rating and completion percentage show.

You are seriously underestimating Griese. I'll note this at the end of the season when Griese is a top 5 fantasy QB.

[Jaguar]

Top five? Imran, you've got to be kidding me. Manning, McNabb, Culpepper, and Green have him beat without any fraction of a doubt. I'm tired, so I can't think of a fifth now, but there will be one, I assure you.

Reismark's team scares me.


Here's mine:

Donovan McNabb
Chad Pennington

Curtis Martin
Kevan Barlow
Derrick Blaylock
Dominic Rhodes

Terrell Owens
Nate Burleson
Eric Moulds
TJ Houshmanzadeh

Antonio Gates
Jim Kleinsasser

Matt Stover

Baltimore Ravens
Indianapolis Colts

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Griese actually started 10 games last year and played in 11. Bulger played in 14 games last year (and started all of them.. but left one after 4 attempts).

You have some bad information.

You are seriously underestimating Griese. I'll note this at the end of the season when Griese is a top 5 fantasy QB.

He could maybe #5. I give it about a 25% chance, but I give it about a 50% chance that he barely cracks the top 10. Bulger on the other hand will probably be #4 and there's a good chance that he'll be number 3.

[Kidlicious]

Here's the projected starters for the Fresno Freakers for week one

Marc Bulger QB
Ladainian Tomlinson RB
Steven Jackson RB
Michael Bennet RB
Charles Rogers WR
Keary Colbert WR
St Louis DEF
L.J. Smith TE
Josh Brown K

Bench

Kurt Warner QB
Michael Vick QB
Ronnie Brown RB
Blaxico Burress WR
Anquan Boldin WR
Larry Fitzgerald WR
Philadelphia DEF

[Zopperoni]

Colbert might not see much action with the return of Smith and the signing of Gardner.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Kidicious

You have some bad information.


He could maybe #5. I give it about a 25% chance, but I give it about a 50% chance that he barely cracks the top 10. Bulger on the other hand will probably be #4 and there's a good chance that he'll be number 3.

You're right, Bulger will beat out Donovan McNabb and Trent Green to become the number three QB in the league.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You have some bad information.

Yeah, I'll call NFL.com and let them know .

He could maybe #5. I give it about a 25% chance, but I give it about a 50% chance that he barely cracks the top 10. Bulger on the other hand will probably be #4 and there's a good chance that he'll be number 3.

D-E-L-U-S-I-O-N-A-L! What does that spell? Delusional!

There is no doubt Griese makes the top 10, and not barely. He was 6th in the league in passer rating last year and now he's got a full year under center, with Clayton having a year under his belt and Cadillac Williams ready to step in sometime this season.

I give him a 50% chance of cracking the Top 5 and only a 5% chance of NOT being in the top 10.

You're right, Bulger will beat out Donovan McNabb and Trent Green to become the number three QB in the league.

Yep, like I said, he's smoking something. Bulger is too inconsistent and throws too many INT/TD (like two years ago) to be in the Top 3. Manning and Culpepper are 1 and 2. McNabb and Green will probably go 3 and 4 (in whatever order), and I think Griese will be 5. Bulger may be 7 or 8 behind Favre and perhaps Plummer.