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  • #46
    I think that Manning and Culpepper are in a class of their own, and although Manning got most of the credit last year, they're pretty much even.

    They're followed by McNabb and Green.

    Of the remaining ones, I think Bulger looks best. But putting him any higher than fifth is just delusional.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      There is no doubt Griese makes the top 10, and not barely. He was 6th in the league in passer rating last year and now he's got a full year under center, with Clayton having a year under his belt and Cadillac Williams ready to step in sometime this season.
      Seeing is believing. Griese was never the star QB, not even in his days with the Broncos, and that team was by no means inferior.

      If Griese wants to perform, he needs Joey Galloway and Anthony Becht to stay healthy, step up, and make plays. Alex Smith might do well in double TE situations, he's a good pick for the future.

      Bulger isn't superb though. He'll get massive yards, but he needs an underneath cushion, because Faulk isn't there anymore to serve as a quick-dump target. Getting Manumaleuma more involved or re-routing Curtis/McDonald will help him very much.

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      • #48
        Yet, Griese thrived under Gruden's offense... just like another QB who was never a star before Gruden got to town. I'm speaking of Rich Gannon, of course, who was a bona fide fantasy star during the Gruden era and then the first year sans Gruden.

        His 10 game streach last year shows what happens when you put Griese in such an offense... and that was with basically no running game!
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        • #49
          Ah, but will the addition of a running game help Griese's stats or not?

          The plays will be more balanced now, leaving Griese with fewer passing attempts. The Bucs defense is still good, so instances where he's called upon to rally the team back will not be there often. I don't think he'll do badly though, I'm putting him down for 3,600 yards, 24 TD, and 16 INTs.

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          • #50
            Well, a more balanced attack will prevent defenses from cheating on the pass (which even though they did so, Griese still had a 97 passer rating). I think the Bucs ran a decent amount last season, they just didn't get a good YPA.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #51
              Pittman did have a career year, but yea, the Bucs ranked fourth from the bottom in rushing attack.

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              • #52
                I don't see Culpepper at #2 this year.

                Here's the way I see it.

                1) Manning
                2) McNabb
                3) Bulger
                4) Culpepper
                5) Green
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Zopperoni
                  Bulger isn't superb though. He'll get massive yards, but he needs an underneath cushion, because Faulk isn't there anymore to serve as a quick-dump target. Getting Manumaleuma more involved or re-routing Curtis/McDonald will help him very much.
                  Manumaleuna won't start probably although they might go with 2 TEs this year. Roland Williams was brought back. Curtis and McDonald will be much better this year. Jackson will make the whole system much better, and the line should get better as the season goes so they shouldn't need the quick-dump target, although Faulk will play on passing downs.
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                  • #54
                    Just a reminder to all of you. The league will be fully activated tomorrow morning. If you haven't checked if your team is correctly submitted into the system, please do so. Otherwise, it's tough turnips.

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                    • #55
                      How do we know if it's correctly submitted?
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                      • #56
                        You can review your team under Draft Results on the Yahoo league page.

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                        • #57
                          L.T. had 55 yards and a TD on 1 carry today. That's a good thing. Bulger and the rest of my team is also looking good in preseason, well most of them. It's starting to look like my #3 back (Bennet) will share carries.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Kidicious
                            I don't see Culpepper at #2 this year.

                            Here's the way I see it.

                            1) Manning
                            2) McNabb
                            3) Bulger
                            4) Culpepper
                            5) Green
                            You are on drugs... you did realize that Moss was out a good portion of last year... the year that Culpepper had a historic year passing the ball, right? There is no way outside of injury that Culpepper doesn't finish at least 2. Hell, he may even finish 1st, he's that talented.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                              You are on drugs... you did realize that Moss was out a good portion of last year... the year that Culpepper had a historic year passing the ball, right? There is no way outside of injury that Culpepper doesn't finish at least 2. Hell, he may even finish 1st, he's that talented.
                              Truth.

                              He won't have Moss this year, but I still think he's good for top 3 or top 2.
                              "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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                              • #60
                                Well, I would have said Culpepper could finish 3rd (even though HIGHLY unlikely) before T.O. decided to **** with McNabb's ability to finish in the Top 2. Even if T.O. plays in the first game of the year, McNabb's relationship with his best WR will be shaken.
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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