45% of Americans are Morons

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Religion will always be the result of a loophole in human psychology resulting in brainwashing, especially of the naive. I hold no emotional attachment to any of these theories, I have just seen so much evidence for evolution that there is no argument any more. You may as well argue about the Earth being flat.

PH, what do you attribute my belief in (a) God to then?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
So, when are you gonna become a commie so you can completely rule, Kuci?

Az was wrong. I need an army too

[chequita guevara]

The CPA is ready and waiting.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Kidicious
That's like me saying that people who like the color blue are more intelligent because I like the color blue. That aint intelligent. It's plain stupid youngling.

1. The fact that you used the world "youngling" puts what you said earlier into stark relief.

2. The fact that you do not believe there is any evidence supporting evolution is tragic, and makes me want some of the **** you're smoking.

[OzzyKP]

Kuci can join the Army of Youth, and take over this country from the evil adults.

[Q Classic]

I can't remember the exact circumstances of this, but...

Kid is a Communist. He might also be a Stalinist. After all, Stalinist thought held that biological darwinism and mendelian genetics were suspect.

Something which crippled their understanding of modern medicine.

[chequita guevara]

No, Kid isn't a Stalinist. If I had to label him, I'd say he was closest to the council communists, kinda of a anarcho-communist group, at least philosophically.

[Q Classic]

I'm just saying, he might be borrowing from Stalinist thought. He was, after all, against Mendelian Genetics and Biological Darwinism, much as how Kid seems to be.

[chequita guevara]

No, Kid seems to be taking a more post-modernist approach here, saying that at some point or another, we take something at faith for the begining of our belief systems. I take it as a matter of faith that my senses reliably send data to me. I do so because I'm able to predict the results of my actions, reasonably well. In cases where I fail, it's generally due to a misinterpretation of the data or because I my reasoning was faulty. And it's reproducable.

But! I could be a brain in a jar ala The Matrix, with inputs being fed into me. I take it on faith that I actually exist in a physical world, though if it weren't. I'd still be forced to act as though it were real, and thus for all practical purposes, it would be real.

Now, as far as evolution goes, the only reasonable interpretation that fist the existing data is the Theory of Evolution. I take it as a given that this explanation is an accurate description of the rise of life and other things. The data's not complete, and new evidence could appear that completely destroys our notion of how life arose (for example, God reveals itself to us and tells us it planted false evidence-though I put this rather low on the list of probability).

Given that's the case, it means we take it on faith that our conception of how life arose and took the shapes it has, if our concept of faith is that it means believing something without complete certainty. If we describe faith as belief in the absence of evidence, which is how most of us describe it, then no, we do not take the ToE on faith, for there is overwhelming evidence that this is the way things happened.

[Q Classic]

I'll admit that I didn't really read all of his posts, nor most of the thread. It is, after all, tl, which leads to dr.

On the other hand, what I have read, doesn't reflect well on Kid. While personally, I tend to lean on the side of there being two faiths, one in science, the other in religion, and while I personally lean more towards science (religion tends to get in the way of technological evolution and progress, whereas science does not), I'm amazed that anybody could think that there's no evidence supporting the theory of evolution.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Kidicious

am I the only one who has noticed that his first post appears to be validated by the rest of the thread?

JM

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by shawnmmcc
Kid - I'll post later. I just saw a doctor - some moles had to come off - and am going to sleep. I'm not ignoring your last point, I'll get to that tonight. Thanks for listening to the post, mostly. I'll show you more data on that to convince you later.

Ok

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Kid isn't a Stalinist.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
That leaves creation as the only possible alternative to evolution. There is no evidence to show creation, whether by extra-terrastrial beings or divine ones.

I believe in creation. I know there is no evidence.

And please describe what you mean by spiritual.

Belief in things that can't be verified like God. I'm a spiritual person. That's why I'll believe that until there is proof otherwise.

Also, I would note that one of the cornerstones of Marxist theory is the Theory of Evolution.

Why do you say it's a cornerstone?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
I'm amazed that anybody could think that there's no evidence supporting the theory of evolution.

There's evidence that it's a possibility, but I don't see any that it did actually happen.