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  • Originally posted by Datajack Franit



    What about this?



    What about it ?

    Where was the photograph taken ?

    In Great Britain ?


    Are they any more alien to me than this:


    I have simply made a precis of his excellent work, 'The Papacy is Antichrist,' because its demonstration cannot be surpassed. I have also added some additional material.


    From a fellow resident of the British Isles. Not someone keen on Catholics (even lapsed Catholics) or homosexuals.

    The jewel in Paisley's paramilitary career has to be the foundation of Ulster Resistance on November 10th 1986.

    His fellow founding members are none other than Peter Robinson and Ivan Foster. To make sure this is clear – the current leader and deputy leader of the DUP helped to found Ulster Resistance.

    Their aim was to bring down the Anglo-Irish Agreement and throughout the north Ulster Resistance was split into 9 battalions.

    Ian Paisley has been photographed in the traditional red beret and he was very proud of himself sitting up in Ulster Hall indeed.

    In 1988 a former DUP election candidate was arrested after an arms find in County Armagh which sent the DUP public relations officer into full flow declaring all links with Ulster Resistance ended in 1987.

    Two conclusions must be drawn from this, the first being the DUP have acknowledged they were linked to Ulster Resistance and secondly why do people believe the DUP when they say the links were broken in 1987?

    The British Government has turned a blind eye to Paisley’s involvement in Ulster Resistance. In April 1987 two members of Ulster Resistance were arrested in France attempting to procure weapons from a South African diplomat, was this before or after links were supposedly broken off?

    Paisley's private militia, Ulster Resistance has yet to decommission its arsenal. The DUP and Ian Paisley have run away and hid from this issue for too long and it is time both communities, both Governments and all parties pushed Ian Paisley on it.

    Ian Paisley has also threatened violence on several occasions during his career. His speeches have incited sectarian hatred and he has been at the head of mobs to rid Catholics from their homes. In 1981 he appeared on a hillside with over 500 men brandishing firearms licences.

    William Beattie, a loyal lieutenant of Rev. Paisley, addressed a DUP Youth Group after the Anglo-Irish Accord was signed by the Dublin and London governments in 1986: "We must hire assassins to kill Catholics and pay them when the job is done."

    Paisley in his own words

    After a Loyalist rally in 1968 – “I will kill all who get in my way”

    After Terence O’Neill held a meeting with Sean Lemass, Paisley shouted “No mass, No Lemass”

    After a Loyalist rally in 1968, Ian Paisely justified his violent anti-Catholic pleas by saying,

    'Catholic homes caught fire because they were loaded with petrol bombs'; Catholic churches were attacked and burned because they were 'arsenals' and 'priests handed out sub-machine guns to parishioners'; and the massive discrimination in employment and shortage of houses for Catholics were simply because they breed like 'rabbits' and multiply like 'vermin'.

    In reference to the Unionist party's Jewish candidate, Harold Smith, he said, "The Unionist party are boasting he [Harold Smith] is a Jew. As a Jew, he rejects our Lord Jesus Christ, the New Testament, Protestant principles, the Glorious Reformation and the sanctity of the Lord's day. The Protestant throne and the Protestant constitution are nothing to him."



    Clearly these must be the homegrown 'British' values the Tory m.p. has in mind.
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    • just as I thought
      I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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      • Them are the people that bombed us and those who fail to criticise their actions.
        So terrorists and fundamentalists?

        Islam |= terrorists and fundamentalists
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        • Originally posted by Urban Ranger
          IIRC the only country on the list that has been hit is the UK.

          Foreign policy is much broader than just Iraq. Iraq is just the most recent - and most bloody after Vietnam.
          Ever heard of Bali?

          Paris railways have never been bombed?

          Oh, and it was you who drew the connection with Iraq.
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          • But yes, I can well understand Muslims being pissed off with Canadians over foreign policy. After all, we deployed soldiers to keep peace in the Sinai, and then again to protect Muslim (and other) populations in the disintegrating Yugoslavia.

            How dare we!
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            • Originally posted by notyoueither
              But yes, I can well understand Muslims being pissed off with Canadians over foreign policy. After all, we deployed soldiers to keep peace in the Sinai, and then again to protect Muslim (and other) populations in the disintegrating Yugoslavia.

              How dare we!
              The most despicable westerner of all, the apparantly blameless. But OBL has seen through your little charade and moved you to the top of the list where you belong!
              He's got the Midas touch.
              But he touched it too much!
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              • OBL still has a beef with the Spanish over the reconquistodor of Spain back before either Muslims or Xians even new america existed.

                Thats a long grudge.
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                • Originally posted by Datajack Franit



                  just as I thought

                  Wow. That's terribly enlightening. I can insert a rolleyes smiley too, followed by a non sequitur.




                  So where was the photograph taken?

                  And explain why it's relevant to the United Kingdom.


                  I wouldn't mind but you're the one who seemed, somewhat hysterically, to accuse me of 'cultural verbosity' and dragged in a mediaeval Polish farmer for no reason I could fathom.
                  Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                  ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                  • Some people can read all the books in the world and still don´t get a damn thing about the world they live in
                    I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

                    Asher on molly bloom

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                    • Originally posted by Datajack Franit
                      Some people can read all the books in the world and still don´t get a damn thing about the world they live in

                      I don't restrict my knowledge of the world to reading, thanks.

                      I have Muslim friends, have been to a Muslim country, went to school and university with Muslims, have Muslim neighbours next door, in the basement flat, and an Islamic centre a few doors down from me.

                      I live in the most ethnically diverse part of the United Kingdom, if not Western Europe, where over 120 different languages are spoken. There are mosques and businesses run by Muslims here- and a Buddhist vihara, Sikh gurdwaras and Hindu temples, as well as a Ukrainian church and even Unitarian and Seventh Day Adventist meeting houses.

                      On the other hand, you live... where, exactly ?



                      You're simply avoiding the question I asked you by using ad hominems- an easy but ineffective ploy.
                      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                      • Originally posted by Datajack Franit We are discussing about two issues: islamists in western societies and people of muslim religion supporting terrorism acts. Knowing more about flemish weavers or chinese sailors has hardly any kind or relevance to this topic. Or do you just want someone to tell you how good your history knowledge is?
                        i think you've discovered the secret of molly's posting.
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                        • aye

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                          • and it isn't all that good either you know most is wikipedia

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                            • Talking about pictures taken from GB



                              I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

                              Asher on molly bloom

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                              • I must admit, every day I do wish the fundamentalist muslims to be thrown into the North sea... same logic as the christians but more explosives seem to be involved .
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