So I was told I'm a Republican...

[Patroklos]

That is not a democrat. I'll tweak them for you.

2) Do you want quality public education?

Do you think everyone should have the same level of education, no matter how bad that level must be for it to happen.

(3) Do you want quality, affordable medical care?

Do you believe in the tooth fairy.

(6) Should all taxpayers pay their fair share?

Do you think people should pay a disproportionate about of taxes due to class discrimination?

If you answer yes to those ones, THEN your a democrat.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Patroklos


Do you think people should pay a disproportionate about of taxes due to class discrimination?

class discrimination is already in built into the system

the difference in taxes is just trying to even it out a bit (which it doesn't)

same is true for quality education and health care

you just want to have your castle and be able to lord it over us serfs

if a bit of discrimination had not been offset, the revolution would have happened years ago

and the statesmen better watch what they do, if they roll back the offset, there will be a revolution coming...

JM

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Do you think people should pay a disproportionate about of taxes due to class discrimination?

Oh, the poor, oppressed rich. How do they manage to hold on to all the top jobs in government and business while simulteiniously owning most of the wealth in the country with the heavy burden of class discrimination they face. Woe is them.

[Patroklos]

Oh, the poor, oppressed rich. How do they manage to hold on to all the top jobs in government and business while simulteiniously owning most of the wealth in the country with the heavy burden of class discrimination they face. Woe is them.

Whether they are oppressed or not is not the point (they are not), if you want to run a system predicated on fairness which is everyoens mantra these days, there is no rational for the rich to pay more other than greed.

If you want them to pay more, go ahead and say it, but them don't be all pissy when they rightfully demand more of something else.

[chequita guevara]

They benefit disproportionately, so it's fair they pay disproportionately.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Whether they are oppressed or not is not the point (they are not), if you want to run a system predicated on fairness which is everyoens mantra these days, there is no rational for the rich to pay more other than greed.

It's fair for the rich to pay more in income tax because they have fewer fixed expenses cutting into their income.

You are overapplying consistency and confusing it with fairness. They are not the same thing.

If you want them to pay more, go ahead and say it, but them don't be all pissy when they rightfully demand more of something else.

Well, they could be permitted to have more of an income if they are willing to pay more of a tax... Oh, wait!

[Dis]

Re: Re: Re: So I was told I'm a Republican...

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Because it requires a lot more training to become a doctor. Nearly anyone can be a janitor. All you need is a mop.

I wouldn't be a good janitor

[chequita guevara]

Neither would I. Those harsh chemicals cause my asthma to go nuts. Nonetheless, the pool of potential janitors is far larger than the pool of potential doctors, in the immediate term.

[Dis]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Neither would I. Those harsh chemicals cause my asthma to go nuts. Nonetheless, the pool of potential janitors is far larger than the pool of potential doctors, in the immediate term.

I can't argue that. In the U.S. we are seeing the bad effects of having such a large population, and not enough skilled doctors.

Yes I blame lawyers for the malpractice fiasco in the U.S. But that doesn't change the fact that doctors are making this many mistakes. There are simply a lot of bad doctors out there. It takes more than just memorizing medical textbooks.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Dis
Yes I blame lawyers for the malpractice fiasco in the U.S.

I blame doctors making mistakes and insurance companies being greedy. At least laywers help the injured get recompense.

[Frankychan]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
There's more than one way to remove someone from society, and there are different ways to define "don't contribute." If you mistrust us, you will necessarily define it in the most nefarious menaing possible. If you trust us, you will go to the other extreme. That's just the nature of how people communicate.

Suffice it to say, I highly doubt Franky meant it as in setting up death camps for Jews, gays, cripples, etc. I think it was more likely along the lines of, if you don't want to do your share, go live somewhere people accept that sort of behavior. Good luck finding it.

Yeah, I didn't mean that we start constructing death camps. I meant that exactly said above.

"I think it was more likely along the lines of, if you don't want to do your share, go live somewhere people accept that sort of behavior. Good luck finding it."



Of course, I understand people fall on hard times and sometimes s*** hits the fan....AND I realize that while one may want to work, it's sometimes hard to get that job. These kind of people deserve governmental assistance IE welfare, Section 8 housing assistance, etc.

But those that just want a permanent free ride deserve to the kick to the curb.

[Frankychan]

Originally posted by Sprayber



I just started playing again for the first time in about a year

Me and Franky participated in some SMAC fiction and he was always the Hive and I was the noble Spartans..So I kid him about being a Hive Drone all the time.

Yes, definitely.

But I think you have your statement backwards...The noble Hive and you being a Spartan Drone, my friend.

[Patroklos]

Well, they could be permitted to have more of an income if they are willing to pay more of a tax... Oh, wait!

Your just jealous and greedy. Just say it and be done with it. No need to hide it behind convoluted political doublespeak.

[Dis]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


I blame doctors making mistakes and insurance companies being greedy. At least laywers help the injured get recompense.

you can't seriously support greedy lawyers.

Last I checked, lawyers are driving better cars than doctors or insurance company execs.

[Frankychan]

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
Hard workers get perks.

No one gets a free ride.

Specialists get better perks.

No work = removal from society.

Strong government.

Structured economic model.


Uhhh, Franky, not to be a jerk, but I think you're a national socialist, at least from what you've described.

I don't know if that's right...That might be a stretch, man.