Historical hypothetical: 7 Dec 1941, Japan attacks, George W Bush is President

[Ted Striker]

By the way we also allied with many warlords in Afghanistan who weren't exactly poster children for protectors of human rights.

So the Soviet Union hypocricy charge doesn't stick either.

[Patroklos]

[Wittlich]

Come on Ted, get in the spirit of the thread. Don't be a party pooper.

Great posts so far!

[Alexander's Horse]

Doubts that China attacked Pearl harbor persist. Dubya is asked by reporters for a reaction to comments from Chinese Natonalist leader Chiang Kai Shek pointing out that Japan controls all Chinese ports and in any event the Nationalists don't have a navy let alone aircraft carriers.

Dubya cryptically replies, "fool me once, shame on us, fool me twice, shame on them."

Adminstration officials hastily terminate the press conference.

[Sandman]

Bush's rousing speech:

"Yesterday, twelve seven four one, - a number which will live on in infancy - the United States of America was subjected to aerial bombitude by the naval, air and flying forces of the Japanese freedom fighters."

[Alexander's Horse]

[alva]

Great thread.

[Proteus_MST]

I fully agree with alva

[Alexander's Horse]

American merchant shipping being sunk in the Atlantic and the Pacific. Dubya suspects the involvement of the Royal Navy. Decides to intern Canadians.

[Drake Tungsten]

Decides to intern Canadians.

About damn time.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
By the way we also allied with many warlords in Afghanistan who weren't exactly poster children for protectors of human rights.

So the Soviet Union hypocricy charge doesn't stick either.

You can't have back to back By The Way posts. It's bad form.

10 yard penalty and repeat the down.

[MikeH]

Re: Historical hypothetical: 7 Dec 1941, Japan attacks, George W Bush is President

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Lets track the great man through WWII as a US wartime leader

Dubya is a man of action so the first thing he would have done I think would have been the same as Roosevelt - address congress in emergency session, call the attack on Pearl Harbor a day that will live in infamy or something similar, and declare war on China

[Straybow]

Originally posted by Sandman
Bush's rousing speech:

"Yesterday, twelve seven four one, - a number which will live on in infancy - the United States of America was subjected to aerial bombitude by the naval, air and flying forces of the Japanese freedom fighters."

Now that's more like it.

[molly bloom]

Now this isn't political talk. This is true. Any time of the year it's a time of sorrow and sadness when we lose a loss of life.

See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.

The American people now are beginning to realize we have a serious problem when it comes to Toga and Emperor Harry Houdini.

And that problem begins with people like all of you and me.

Now I went to the Congress last September and proposed fundamental -- supplemental funding, which is money for armor and body parts....

and I appreciated the spirit of Republicans and Democrats comin' together. But it isn't a 70, uh, a 5 year fix. This is 1943. We're only in 1945.

I want to remind you all that in order to fight and win the war, it requires an expenditure of money that is commiserate with keeping a promise to our troops.

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.

This notion that the US is getting ready to attack Mexico is simply ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the table. A submarine could take that place out.

But to paraphrase President Harding, there's America, and then there's Texas. We have great relations with the Vichy.

We work closely with the Vichy government on a lot of issues and in my judgment, when the United States says there will be serious consequences, and if there isn't serious consequences, it creates adverse consequences.



And finally, I say unto to you, my fellow Americans, security is the essential roadblock to achieving the road map to peace.


May the Lord make me truly thank you. Good night, and now I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend.

[lord of the mark]

George W. Bush

"Look, to those who say that Operation Torchiere, the invasion of North Africa, is not about the war against Japan and Germany, i say to them, look at all the Germans we're fighting against in North Africa. We've won a big victory against the Germans in a place called Kasserine pass, where our troops advanced several miles backwards, and the German retreated forward. However the Wehrmacht is presently in its death throes, and theres NO need to mobilize the economy. You want to beat the Nazis, go shopping"

Antiwar pundits -
Yet again, George Bush has put his foot in his mouth, claiming that the absurd, poorly planned invasion of neutral, democratic, French North Africa, which has alienated French people everywhere from the allied cause was somehow connected with Peal Harbor. Did Harvard Bus School not teach him that the Japanese, er dont speak French? Does he confuse rice noodles with croissants? Now, he makes another rhetorical stretch, claiming that the presence of German troops in North Africa somehow justifies this illegal invasion. We would like to remind the President of two things (if thats not too much for his small brain) First, Germany was NOT a participant in the attack on Pearl. Yes, they had a "pact of Steel" with Japan, but they werent actually fighting on Japans side - there were no German troops in China. Perhaps the president is not aware that the Nationalist Chinese have actually received assistance from Nazi Germany in the past. Yet idiot Bush still thinks that by fighting Germans in North Africa, hes somehow avenging pearl Harbor - now we arent saying the Germans are nice guys -theyre certainly not, but saying that this is somehow connected to Pearl is just more lies from the Rove spin machine. Oh, and we would also remind the prez, that prior to operation "torch" (where the hell did the idiot get "torchiere"?) there were NO german troops in North Africa. If we didnt want Germans in North Africa, we shouldnt have invaded North Africa. Illegally, we might add.

Purportedly hawkish liberals -
We need to take issue with both the president and his antiwar critics. On the one hand the president must take responsibility for not only the bungled planning of Torch, but for the disaster of launching this invasion of a neutral, that we could have wooed to our side. And he should refrain from absurd rhetoric - Rommel had nothing to do with planning the despicable attack on Pearl, and we should avoid the confusion that comes with implying he was. And of course Vichy was not responsible for Rommel anyway - German troops DO exist in France, but NOT in areas under Vichy control. On the other hand, the doves must understand that Germans ARE in North Africa NOW, and even if thats Bushes faults, we cant undo that mistake. NOW we MUST defeat the Germans and drive them from North Africa. After that we should avoid any similar mistakes in the future, like say, invading Normandy.


Anne Coulter
Look, you think the French WERENT responsible for Pearl? Think about it. The Japanese eat raw fish, even stuff like sea anemone. The french eat snails and frogs legs. You dont see the pattern? The japanese speak an incomprehensible language. so do the french. I applaud the president for attacking France, and hope he will be tough enough on them. I suggest New Orleans be placed under martial law, immediately. Anyone who says otherwise is a Nazi lover.


Protests -
"No blood for phosphates"
"how many more children must die in Tunis for Bush?"
"Hey dubya? Are the "death camps" as real as the "dangerous French Fleet"?
"I have a photo of an American general shaking hands with Petain in 1917 - this proves American hypocrisy"
"bush lied, people died"


Dateline, North Africa

when asked whether the military agreed with Bush's categorization of Kasserine pass as a victory, US military spokesmen stated that there were always different views of major battles, and that there really was no point in focusing on arbitrary terms like "victory" or "defeat" The same spokesmen reaffirmed that all US generals believed available forces and supplies were adequate, and that expelling axis forces from North Africa would likely take no longer than 3 to 5 years. "ultimately, this is something the French have to do, but we will do all we can to empower them".

George Patton could not be reached for comment.