US War of Independence

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Not to rain on anyone's parade or anything, and mostly out of curiosity....

if the US is really the total $hithole country that a significant chunk of posters here say it is (or a nation in severe decline, or any number of other comments)....why is this important?

Why would anybody care WHAT went on during the revolution, or for that matter, what the US is up to in general?

Just a thought that I'll leave unfinished.

-=Vel=-

Why do you say that? Who said the US was a $hithole country? I mean, other than Ludd.

Who said you're in decline? We like you big, and mean, and powerful. Who would want to crow about giving the class geek a good ass kicking?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by notyoueither
And maybe we'll give them another ass kicking.

And maybe Ming will free YYYH.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn

I should have flagged that I wasn't talking about Quebec... Quebec is a totally different animal. I was thinking of the English colonies only.

Quebec was the only thing of significance up here at the time, aside from Halifax.

PEI had only recently been colonised mostly by people straight from the British Isles. It is not surprising that they remained loyal.

You miss the point. First off, we're talking about the Rev. War, not 1812.

What are you talking about? Do you know? I don't think so. The comment about PEI was related to the Rev War, not 1812.

Second, you're trying to make distinctions that don't exist. The point is that in every colony the whole idea of going to war was highly contentious and even pretty unpopular. And every Anglo colony likely had large numbers of people directly from the British Isles as well (but I realize PEI had quite a high proportion).

So to say that for some reason the Anglo Canadian provinces didn't join the revolution because they had conditions which were present in every other colony at the time doesn't make much sense or answer any questions.

You are amusing when you wade in on Canadian history.

The colony of PEI was established in 1769. That didn't leave them much time to a: get their lives and livlihoods in order, b: get irrate about Stamp Taxes, c: amount to more than a hill of beans.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


And maybe Ming will free YYYH.

Also about as likely as another American invasion.

[Kuciwalker]

But much more likely than Canada giving an ass-kicking.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
Americans woke up sometime in the year 1812 and decided to declare war on Canada. Why? Just because it seemed like the most evil thing to do. The Americans then come across the border, completely unprovoked, with their tanks and nukes and million man army. The little Canadian militia with muskets in hand fights them off bravely while singing god save the queen. The Americans then run back across the border. Canadians burn the White House.

The End.

Damn straight!

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
But much more likely than Canada giving an ass-kicking.

Yeah, we're more backwards than people in Vietnam and Iraq. We'd be pushovers. Heh.

[Kuciwalker]

I have difficulty picturing Canadian suicide bombers.

[notyoueither]

Who needs to commit suicide? We all know that all that has to happen is that a large number of Americans get deposited in body bags and you'll turn tail, just as you always have when getting yourselves involved in unjustified aggression.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Az
the pop of canada was 100k at 1812?

USA at the war of 1812

More like 150 000 IIRC (in Upper Canada)

Add another 200 000 for Lower Canada and 150 000 for the Maritimes...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove

The invasion of Canada was a desultatory affair initiated by one local commander.

Bull****.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Matters not to you. Insignificant to you. You lost.

We won. To us, it is a significant event on the bumpy road to modern Canada.

You back stabbers jumped the Brits when they had their backs turned. Your dear leaders thought you'd stroll in and add us to your jacobin nightmare while the British Empire was elsewhere occupied. Well, Madison thought wrong. We loyalists kicked your Yankee asses so hard that the numbers 54 and 40 have disappeared from the American ability to enumerate to this day.

Yeow.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


It never made the reasons the Senate authorized war. If a war aim it waaaay down the list compared to the greivances listed.

It never made the list for the same reason that "we want Iraq's oil" never made the list...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
See... there it is again!

Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence.

The third time, we started to think you guys might have something other than the purest intentions...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I have difficulty picturing Canadian suicide bombers.

What do you think the pilots of Sea Kings are?