US War of Independence

[notyoueither]

You can have Southern Alberta. The oil is mostly all gone from there anyways. The real wealth is in the North. There's a bunch of Frenchies and socialists up here.

[notyoueither]

... and two thirds of Newfoundland.

[Velociryx]

Who said you're in decline? We like you big, and mean, and powerful. Who would want to crow about giving the class geek a good ass kicking?

Yes, but there's the rub, isn't it?

I mean...even if we accept the Canadian version of events as gospel, the fact remains that, in 1812, we WEREN"T "big, mean, and powerful." and thus, you have considerably less to crow about, I would think.

And the point remains that for all the threads, comments and disbaraging remarks about the US, its imminent decline, and our utter incompetence, we still manage to get a wampum lot of discussion threads started about us....far more than would be warranted if we were truly "all that."

Anyway, carry on....it's amusing and entertaining, and I brought popcorn!

-=Vel=-

[chequita guevara]

Canadians are funny when their national myths are challenged. They've big claim to fame is that they've survived as a country inspite of being next door to the U.S. Generally they're such mild mannered and reasonable people, but disparage hockey, beer, or their myths about American designs on Canada and they get crazy.

[Toby Rowe]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Not to rain on anyone's parade or anything, and mostly out of curiosity....

if the US is really the total $hithole country that a significant chunk of posters here say it is (or a nation in severe decline, or any number of other comments)....why is this important?

Why would anybody care WHAT went on during the revolution, or for that matter, what the US is up to in general?

Just a thought that I'll leave unfinished.

-=Vel=-

Well mate,

This is the Colony that rebelled against the masters in Britain- they showed that both Monarchy and subserviant Goverment could be defeated.

At the very least, they gave us British hope during this war- they (the Yanks) sadly now portray all British as "government" and abusers of American colonists, and abuse the reality of it by doing so. Most agititors were British, not Colonial American British for good reason, yet this seems to be getting forgotten (like it was ever heard).

The Yanks helped us British by way more than they'll ever realise to give us democracy, but they are so obsessed with the British-Ameri-British war, they'll never learn about how it changed the world as they are too obsessed about the US independence aspect instead.


All:

Criticising Canadians is strange- they have been steadfast Allies of the UK and the world, and since 1850-ish, the US as well. Taking the piss out of an ally is one thing, insulting them is quite another matter.

Toby!

[Toby Rowe]

Heh,

Sorry all, Canadians and Yanks produce perhaps the best humour discussing each other,- I'd love a Yank/Canadian comedy night in London- I might understand why they both act as a bunch of girlies when they talk about each other.

Toby :-)

[Toby Rowe]

Originally posted by Sikander


Not long after the Civil War the U.S. had more railroad mileage than the rest of the world put together. The idea that the U.S. was some sort of local economic power remained for a long time in Europe. Germany mistakenly underestimated the effect of U.S. economic power in both world wars for instance. Interesting that this still persists.

Hi mate,

I don't believe that, In the British Isles alone we had over 80,000 miles, combine that with Germany and France alone, let alone India etc- nah, don't believe it.

You have a strange view on Germany, half a century later they are still democratic, although they were the only nation to see the Railway revolution in Britain, and, unlike the rest of the world, then design the entire railway system around getting troops to the border-fast.

What us stupid Europeans did then know's no bounds- we're alright now, I promise.

Toby

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Toby Rowe


Hi mate,

I don't believe that, In the British Isles alone we had over 80,000 miles, combine that with Germany and France alone, let alone India etc- nah, don't believe it.

You have a strange view on Germany, half a century later they are still democratic, although they were the only nation to see the Railway revolution in Britain, and, unlike the rest of the world, then design the entire railway system around getting troops to the border-fast.

What us stupid Europeans did then know's no bounds- we're alright now, I promise.

Toby

The US did indeed have more miles of track than the rest of the world combined for several decades even leading up to the first world war.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Kind of funny that two people here, techumseh and I, are both from Edmonton.

You sure you want us?

You don't think we're in it for the people, do you? Though the most 'American' of you are in that province of yours. We'll just take the oil.

[notyoueither]

As has been mentioned. Come and get us/it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Oh don't worry, we'll get it, and we won't even have to occupy you. Hell, we got control of the top tier of hockey (franchises in LA and Nashville are more important to the front office than former franchises in Winnipeg or Quebec City ever were) without doing much of all except offer money .

[notyoueither]

Well sure, give us money and you can have as much oil as you pay for. Good deal!

[Imran Siddiqui]

I didn't say we'd buy just barrels of oil itself, did I?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050806.wxoilsands06/BNStory/Business/

More liberal U.S. rules on measuring oil reserves will be the catalyst for an international takeover binge in Alberta's oil sands, says a top strategist at Bank of Montreal.

After all, we just didn't get hockey players by offering our money. We got the NHL prostrate to the "American market" and basically run the league now.

[notyoueither]

You get a C+ for creative writing.

[KrazyHorse]

Is now the time to mention to Imran that due to our huge current account surplus with the US we're actually the ones buying them out, not the other way around?