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Originally posted by Sandman
Unionists are the majority in Northern Ireland...
Unionists are the majority in Northern Ireland...
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For now. They are losing the demographic race. NI will soon be a Catholic majority.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... -
So the problem is that you got a bunch of people who are protestant and dont want to unite with the rest of Ireland who is catholic.Comment
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In a nutshell, and not without good reason. Eire has been, for much of its history, basically a Catholic theocracy. Things have gotten much better, recently though. My understanding is there was quite a bit of oppression of the Protestants in the South after independence.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Before Ireland got independent (when was that aprox?) she was a part of the UK?Comment
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1921, IIRC, and yes, before that, it had been under the control of England/Great Britain for 900 years. And the Irish were never very happy about it.Originally posted by Bereta_Eder
Before Ireland got independent (when was that aprox?) she was a part of the UK?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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So why was Scotland pacified and Ireland was not? Religion I gather.Comment
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Religion and the manner at which both came into the fold. The English and Scots both had their reasons for signing the Act of Union. And a Scottish king assumed the English throne. England and Scotland was more an act of two powers joining together than say, Wales (which just got conquered and treated like a part of England) or Ireland, where the English merrily oppressed for centuries and then formally acknowledged said oppression with their Act of Union.Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
-Richard DawkinsComment
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I see. Thanks. When was the Act of Union?
What is the population fo Northern Ireland? and the % of catholics?
and I stop.Comment
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The act of union with Scotland was 1707
The act of union with Ireland was 180012-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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Wait, and what was Ireland before 1800? Its status I mean.Comment
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IIRC NI has ~1.5 million people, of whom ~40% are Catholic
That number is expected to go above 50% at some point in the next 50 years
However, what Chegitz forgot to mention is that Catholics in NI are not as uniformly pro separation from the UK/reunification with Ireland as Protestants there are in favour of remaining part of the UK.
So even once there is a Catholic majority it is unlikely that there will be majority support for separatism immediately.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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the thing i gathered from the series on the BBC is that protestants constitute indeed a majority of the population in NI, but that they only live in very concentrated areas. Most of the countryside is predominantly catholic."Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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and?
btw good posts KH
"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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just saying that in a lot of counties the unification is probably wanted."Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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tbh i'm not sure that what you said is true, but either way, i can assure you that all of the six counties have towns in them
"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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