IRA to lay down arms

[MarkG]

it was "by"="apo"

During the Northern Ireland Troubles, the IRA murdered about 1,800 civilians and members of the security forces.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by MarkG

isnt irish = non-british?

i got it from post #50

It is a misconception that the 'Irish Republican Army' was necessarily made up of Irishmen, or non-British recruits- odd 'Irishmen' that have British nationality and passports....


Although to be fair, it is a curious anomaly relating to the long intertwined history of the two islands that Irish emigres in the United Kingdom had voting rights and access to the benefits of British citizenship and that children born to Irish parents in the United Kingdom could claim dual citizenship.

[Dr Strangelove]

How many Irish were killed by Unionist paramilitaries and British forces?

Anyway, it would be nice tho think that it is all over now. Doesw anyone know what Sein Fein plans now?

[MarkG]

i saw a news report on tv which said that a parliement-like thing that was established after the good friday agreement was dismantled or something. what happened?

[Agathon]

Ireland should be a united country. End of story.

[C0ckney]

no it shouldn't.

[Dr Strangelove]

How about some sort of co-dominion over North Ireland? Residents could proclaim allegiance to either Great Britain or Eire. The area would be generally self-governing with assistance and supervision by a joint council established by Eire and the UK.

[Japher]

Ireland should form a anarcho-syndicalist commune!

WOMAN: We don't have a lord.
ARTHUR: What?
DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We
take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the
week.
ARTHUR: Yes.
DENNIS: But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified
at a special biweekly meeting.
ARTHUR: Yes, I see.
DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal
affairs,--
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: --but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more--
ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
WOMAN: Order, eh -- who does he think he is?
ARTHUR: I am your king!
WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.
ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings.
WOMAN: Well, 'ow did you become king then?
ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake, [angels sing] her arm clad in the
purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of
the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to
carry Excalibur. [singing stops] That is why I am your king!
DENNIS: Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing
swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive
power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some
farcical aquatic ceremony.
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power
just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: I mean, if I went around sayin' I was an emperor just
because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me they'd
put me away!
ARTHUR: Shut up! Will you shut up!
DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!
DENNIS: Oh, what a give away. Did you hear that, did you hear
that, eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing
me, you saw it didn't you?

[child of Thor]

I think once we have a sustained period of peace, then the people of Ireland(from both sides) will be able to live in peace as they mostly want to. In that time the hate mongers will hopefuly die of old age too, so the younger generations can get on with a normal life atlast.
It was a strange sight to see on the news last night, the british army dismantleing its watch towers.
A positive sight though

[molly bloom]

All that is required is for people like this to die out:

" Watch the Jews....Israel is on the way back to favour....watch the Papist Rome rising to a grand crescendo with the Communists. The Reds are on the march. They are heading for an alliance against the return of the Lord Jesus Christ."


The 'Revd.' Ian Paisley, Belfast Telegraph, 4th February 1967


The D.U.P. Conference in June 1978 had a motion from the floor which condemned 'blasphemous & pornographic reading materials in secondary schools on the exam syllabus'.

They had in mind that Larry Flynt classic:

Of Mice And Men.

It contains apparently 16 blasphemous sentences, 26 mentions of the word bastard, and 'son of a b itch' 29 slang references to hell, one mention of rape and one of attempted rape. Godd thing they haven't read The Bible...

Kilkeel D.U.P. also objected to 'The Sound of Music' because of its 'distinct Romanist trend'.

[dannubis]

Originally posted by C0ckney
no it shouldn't.

why not ?

PS : i saw the documantaries too and i fail to see a legitimate basis for the uninonist claim.

[Starchild]

My solution to Northern Ireland was to lease it to the People's Republic of China for 100 years in a kind of reverse-Hong Kong.

[C0ckney]

dan, i think as you want to change the status quo, it's your case to make.

edit: damn x-posters!

[dannubis]

how come ?

i definitely am less invloved in the conflict than you are. i am from the continent remember.

but ok, the way i see it, is that unionists stand to lose their status as a priviledged minority (if they haven't lost it already) if a reunification occurs. but what i fail to see is why the unionists seem to have such a power over your parliament. what is the big problem in letting the irish in northern ireland decide by majority what they want.

[Sandman]

Unionists are the majority in Northern Ireland...

Even though I dislike the Orange Order, you have to give them credit for still existing. I mean, it's like having Jacobites or Chartists still around.