White People's political party formed in my state

[Patroklos]

People who join a party for white people are rednecks

Sounds like you and the White Party hae something in common, an affinity for steriotypes.

How many of your proper, suited, doctorate educated WWII Nazis were rednecks?

[Last Conformist]

Kuci:

Let's crack down on the communists too.

This is your first good idea in quite a while, Kuci.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Caligastia
To even ask whether it's ok for a political party to be formed for whites and by whites is patently racist. Nobody ever questions the right of any other race to organize along ethnic lines.

Since when are there ethnically based POLITICAL PARTIES? Hey Cali, a cookie if you can find a SINGLE political party registered anywhere in the US that allows only members of its own race to join. Bonus cookie if they are not white.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I have a better idea. Take over the party, and say that anyone who is not like me is not white. Kick people out for being too white!

Anyone who is not like you is not white?

Kick people out for being to white?

If you are the standard for whiteness, then nobody would be too white.

ACK!

[Ben Kenobi]

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by GePap


Since when are there ethnically based POLITICAL PARTIES? Hey Cali, a cookie if you can find a SINGLE political party registered anywhere in the US that allows only members of its own race to join. Bonus cookie if they are not white.

It makes no difference. Non-white ethnic organizations wield political power whether they are an actual political party or not. Yet epicene white uterus-boys like you only seem to have a problem with organizations that promote the interests of whites.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by GePap


Since when are there ethnically based POLITICAL PARTIES? Hey Cali, a cookie if you can find a SINGLE political party registered anywhere in the US that allows only members of its own race to join. Bonus cookie if they are not white.

Black Independent Political Party
Are you are tired of the two party system rhetoric of “vote a democrat in to keep a republican out?” Are you tired of ambiguous black leadership which claims to stand for black people but refuses to be a part of, or support, any organization that isn’t multi-cultural and puts the interest of black people first? Are you tired of being the proverbial “wife” of leadership that wants to take care of all their other girlfriends first before taking care of yours, yet expect full support and loyalty from you? Are you tired of not having any form of a socio-economic and political infra-structure within the black community or so-called black leadership not feeling a need to put one in place? Are you tired of so-called black leadership setting themselves up as liaisons and middle-men supposedly working in your interests but actually using your support and numbers as a cattle count to further their own agendas at the expense of the black community? Are you tired of not being able to call the tune because you don’t pay the piper?



George Bush is going to run for President once again. Four years have gone by and so-called black leadership has still done nothing to mobilize the black community and re-energize them, even after the last presidential election fiasco. So, what you will hear from now until election day is the “If you don’t vote for (insert generic Democrat here) we’ll have to deal with George Bush for another four years,” song with a sense of urgency thrown in. After Al Gore winning the so-called “popular vote” and not winning the presidential election, it has become painfully obvious to the people their vote means nothing. Their lack of participation is a living, breathing, testament to that.



So, please, lets make the people claiming they represent us not do it behind closed door and in secret but by openly and boldly declaring an agenda in step and in sync with the needs and issues of black people. When so-called black leadership tells you a black independent political party controlled and financed by black people makes no sense, what the are really saying is that your issues and your concerns and your needs make no sense. They say you don’t want a party that works in your interest. Prove them wrong by signing this petition and forwarding it to as many as your friends as you can so they can pass it on to their friends. Let them try to ignore 10,000, or hopefully more, black signatures at their own political risk. If they do ignore it and refuse to be a part of and support a black independent political party, they at least you know where they stand in relationship to our people. Peace, Love and the utmost of Respect. ONE LOVE!

That's one.

ACK!

[Guynemer]

That was supposed to be Cali's homework assignment, Tube. Letting him copy your work, huh? Detention for the both of yas!

[GePap]

Originally posted by Tuberski

Black Independent Political Party
Are you are tired of the two party system rhetoric of “vote a democrat in to keep a republican out?” Are you tired of ambiguous black leadership which claims to stand for black people but refuses to be a part of, or support, any organization that isn’t multi-cultural and puts the interest of black people first? Are you tired of being the proverbial “wife” of leadership that wants to take care of all their other girlfriends first before taking care of yours, yet expect full support and loyalty from you? Are you tired of not having any form of a socio-economic and political infra-structure within the black community or so-called black leadership not feeling a need to put one in place? Are you tired of so-called black leadership setting themselves up as liaisons and middle-men supposedly working in your interests but actually using your support and numbers as a cattle count to further their own agendas at the expense of the black community? Are you tired of not being able to call the tune because you don’t pay the piper?



George Bush is going to run for President once again. Four years have gone by and so-called black leadership has still done nothing to mobilize the black community and re-energize them, even after the last presidential election fiasco. So, what you will hear from now until election day is the “If you don’t vote for (insert generic Democrat here) we’ll have to deal with George Bush for another four years,” song with a sense of urgency thrown in. After Al Gore winning the so-called “popular vote” and not winning the presidential election, it has become painfully obvious to the people their vote means nothing. Their lack of participation is a living, breathing, testament to that.



So, please, lets make the people claiming they represent us not do it behind closed door and in secret but by openly and boldly declaring an agenda in step and in sync with the needs and issues of black people. When so-called black leadership tells you a black independent political party controlled and financed by black people makes no sense, what the are really saying is that your issues and your concerns and your needs make no sense. They say you don’t want a party that works in your interest. Prove them wrong by signing this petition and forwarding it to as many as your friends as you can so they can pass it on to their friends. Let them try to ignore 10,000, or hopefully more, black signatures at their own political risk. If they do ignore it and refuse to be a part of and support a black independent political party, they at least you know where they stand in relationship to our people. Peace, Love and the utmost of Respect. ONE LOVE!

That's one.

ACK!

Wow, how similar. You can see from their harangue of the "black leadership" who the real enemies are! JUst count the number of times they blame whites for their troubles (0), or their anti-other group's stance (I guess they ineffective current black leadership allied with the Democrats is another group....). And to finish it off, look at the sinister last phrase "Peace, Love and the utmost of Respect. ONE LOVE!"

[GePap]

On them:

http://www.geocities.com/mnsocialist/nbipp1.html

National Black Independent Political Party sabotaged by Democrats
by May May Gong

“The crises we face as Black people are the crises of the entire society. They go deep to the very bones and marrow, to the essential nature of America’s economic, political and cultural systems. They are the natural end product of a society built on the twin foundations of white racism and white capitalism.

“A Black Political Convention, indeed all truly Black politics, must begin from this truth: The American system does not work for the masses of our people, and it cannot be made to work without radical fundamental change (indeed, this system does not really work in favor of humanity or anyone in America).

“Both parties have betrayed us whenever their interests conflicted with ours (which has been most of the time). …”

So declares the founding document of the National Black Independent Political Party (NBIPP), a party that was founded by 1500 activists at a convention in Philadelphia in November 1980 and that had close to a four year existence.

The NBIPP charter is one of the most aggressive, anti-imperialist, and anti-capitalist documents of its kind. It clearly defines the need for Blacks as well as all working people to make a break from the twin parties of the capitalists, the Democrats and Republicans.

The NBIPP charter also includes demands for full employment; jobs for all; an end to racist job practices; and end to plant closings; the repeal of “right-to-work” laws; and the call for massive public-works programs, affirmative-action programs, free education, job-training programs, and health-car programs.

Another striking aspect of the NBIPP program is the section on women’s rights. There is no Black organization or labor union that has such a strong policy in support of the rights of women. Among other points, the program states that NBIPP will fight against all constitutional or legal barriers to abortion upon demand.

A “dual strategy”

More important than what an organization writes, however, is what it does. And NBIPP, in its brief existence, failed to implement its charter. It failed, in this sense, to fulfill its tremendous potential.

The reasons for NBIPP’s failure are not hard to find: The leadership of NBIPP perpetrated a “dual strategy” of having one foot in NBIPP and one foot in the Democratic Party. It was this violation of the political orientation laid out in its charter that kept NBIPP locked into the two-party framework.

Because of this incorrect strategy, NBIPP was never able to run its own candidates against the Democrats and Republicans. It was never given the chance to implement its charter. In fact, it never functioned as a political party in any real sense. Consequently, most people never even knew of its existence.

When Jesse Jackson decided to organize his Rainbow Coalition prior to the 1984 presidential elections, the party was ill prepared to withstand the pressure of being swept into Jackson’s Democratic Party coalition. By July 1984, NBIPP was essentially non-existent. Soon many of its leaders would become the main organizers for Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition.

Purge of left wing

In this light, it is not surprising that in 1983 the NBIPP leadership engineered the expulsion of a large number of NBIPP members who had “left-wing” affiliations, among them dozens of members of the Socialist Workers Party (SWP).

In the spring of 1982, the SWP press printed the charter that had been adopted at the NBIPP founding congress in 1980. This became the excuse for the NBIPP leadership, which had refused to publish and disseminate the charter, to launch a “red-baiting” campaign.

The leadership understood correctly, that making the NBIPP charter available to radicalizing Black workers and youth would make it more difficult for them to implement their pro-Democratic Party orientation.

The expulsions were carried through on the premise that SWP members and others had divided loyalties and a conflict of interest; that they had their own agenda they were attempting to carry out within NBIPP.

The reactionary nature of this action is highlighted by the fact that NBIPP members who belonged to the capitalist Democratic Party were not considered to have “divided loyalties.” They, in fact, were the ones behind the expulsion of the SWP members, who were very vocal in their stance against support to any capitalist candidates – i.e., they simply wanted to uphold and implement the NBIPP charter.

A political purge was then necessary to impose the leadership’s “dual-strategy” line. The NBIPP leadership denied that it was engaged in any form of “red-baiting” and instead claimed that it was simply protecting the party from “outside takeover.”

It was during this period that many NBIPP members who wanted to uphold the charter became demoralized by the infighting and sectarianism and began voting with their feet, leaving what appeared to them to be an inactive organization.

No balance sheet

On Dec. 2-4, 1988, 80 to 100 past NBIPP members gathered at Howard University in Washington D.C., to discuss what NBIPP had accomplished, what errors it made in the past, and what lay on the road ahead. The meeting was organized by Ron Daniels, former national co-chair of NBIPP and later the national chair of the Jesse Jackson presidential campaign.

Sadly, according to the reports received from this meeting, no viable political perspective was laid out there. No acknowledgement was made of the error of steering the party into the Democratic Party orbit.

And how could it be otherwise when the person convening the meeting was one of the people most responsible for taking NBIPP into the Democratic Party and for purging the party’s left wing.

At this point, many questions remain to be answered. Is there any sentiment among past members to reconstitute NBIPP? Is NBIPP still the formation under which a Black independent movement will be expressed?

One thing is clear, however. The key to any re-emergence of an independent Black party will depend on the adoption, popularization, and implementation of a program similar to the one contained in the NBIPP charter.

NBIPP represented an historic opportunity for the Black movement to break from the stranglehold of capitalist politics. The potential of an organization like NBIPP is the same untapped potential that lies within the entire working class and must soon be realized in order to take political power out of the hands of the ruling rich. Only by direct political control of the government will it be possible for working people, including Blacks, to win our freedom.

The method of lobbying for Democratic Party “friends of labor” or “friends of Blacks” has proven time and time again to be a deadly trap. A Black party striking out on an independent course can point the way forward for all working people.

This article first appeared in the February 1989 issue of Socialist Action newspaper.

Bunch of racists! Never can trust those socialists on the issue of race...

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
Yeah, what kind of mutants those flashing ones are?

Though, I'm wondering. There are support groups for women, black people, gay, gay black women, gay hispanic black women, every sorta minority. Now, if someone would set up a support/lobby group for the caucasian populace, would they be automatically labeled as a nazi/white supremacist?

"For" white people sounds good, but "against" everybody else sounds bad, to my ear, which admittedly has some water in it.

If someone want to form a party for English descended americans, or German americans, or whatever, that would be one thing. "White" has never really functioned as a positive cultural identity in America, except in distinction from non-whites. It would be life forming a gentile party for non Jews, or a kafr party for non-muslims, or whatever.

[chequita guevara]

I thought there were already two white people's parties: the Democrats and the Republicans (especially the latter).

[Q Classic]

I'm wondering. What if you don't look white, but think "white"?

I mean, I'm sick and tired of those F.O.B. Asians coming over and stealing our jobs... And yes, I am white! I mean, _really_ white! Ignore my Asian appearance! The CIA did plastic surgery on me!

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
I'm wondering. What if you don't look white, but think "white"?

I mean, I'm sick and tired of those F.O.B. Asians coming over and stealing our jobs... And yes, I am white! I mean, _really_ white! Ignore my Asian appearance! The CIA did plastic surgery on me!

Reminds my of Bubbahotep.

JFK played by Ozzie Davis(RIP): "They dyed me this color."

ACK!

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Tuberski


Reminds my of Bubbahotep.

JFK played by Ozzie Davis(RIP): "They dyed me this color."

Still haven't seen that movie.

I'm working night shifts this month (5:30PM - 7AM) as one of three senior residents in the hospital. When things are quiet, we crash on the couch in the resident lounge and watch DVDs.

Do you think this movie would be appreciated?