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Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
yeah, so are we. we also won all the naval battles i think.
Almost and a number of land battles to boot.
Battle of Lake Erie - Commadore Perry winner
Constitution vs. Guerriere - Constitution Winner
USS United Staes vs. HMS Macedonia - Winner USS UNited States
USS Essex vs. HMS Alert - Winner USS Essex
USS Hornet cs. HMS Peacock - Winner USS Hornet
USS Cheasapeake vs. HMS Shannon - Winner HMS SHannon
USS President vs. HMS Alert, Daphne, and Eliza Swan - Winner USS President
USS ENterprise vs. HMS Boxer - Winner USS Enterprise
Battle of Lake Champlaign - Winner US decisively ending any British invasion hopes and ultimately making the war a draw
USS Wasp vs. HMS BAcchus and others - Winner USS Wasp
Land battles that US won
Battle of Horshoe Bend - Winner Andrew Jackson
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Battle of Chippewa -
Battle of Baltimore Ft. McHenry (inspiration for Francis Scott Keys)
Treaty of Ghent reflects the draw but Battle of New Orleans essentially sealed the fact that no further British designs would be foisted upon American territories or sovereignty.
And so, although after the Treaty of Ghent. The Battle of New Orleans represents a turning point wherein the US truly gained its independence for a final and second time from the Brits."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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I'm not a big fan of Gen. Westmoreland, but you can't tag him with the loss. He was only in command up through the Tet Offensive -- which by the way, militarily devestated the Viet Cong. After that, the war was prosecuted by the North Vietnamese.
Thus, US later negotiated a peace, which granted neither side a victory.
It was only long after the U.S. had gone home that the North Vietnamese violated the treaty by sending its armies slashing across the border and into the South.
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Republicans will, of course, support such a move. It was a military effort to affect a regime change of depositic rulers who had ordered their own countrymen killed.
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The thread title really could do with some punctuation!Comment
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I can't believe my confederacy troll got no response.
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Suck it, MarkG!Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
USS United Staes vs. HMS Macedonia - Winner USS UNited StatesI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Yeah, that was my thought too. What about the war of 1812.
The Brits kicked your butts.
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That must be why we're still here.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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You chose a time when the Brits were somewhat busy with bigger fish to fry.Originally posted by DinoDoc
That must be why we're still here."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
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In reality towards the end of the war the Brits had indeed turned their full attention to the former colonies and had intended a 3 front invasion of the states. To that end, 1 prong was completely blunted and turned back at the battle of Lake Champlaign. 1 prong successful in that DC was burned but blunted at Baltimore and ultimately decided that it was too costly to occupy. Finally 1 prong decisively demolished at the Battle of new Orleans.Originally posted by Wezil
You chose a time when the Brits were somewhat busy with bigger fish to fry.
Decision goes to the defender. Winner - US for the second time in less than 30 years.
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And achieved almost none of the objectives.Originally posted by Wezil
You chose a time when the Brits were somewhat busy with bigger fish to fry.Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
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As Olgie's list of (primarily) single ship actions show, the US usually prevailed on the Great Lakes and in frigate to frigate actions. However, the naval balance of power in the Atlantic was, to say the least, lopsided in Britain's favour.
The list of British/Canadian victories on land, including the battles of Queenston Heights, Detroit, Chrysler's Farm, Bladensburg, and Chateaugay, are far more numerous than US victories.
The ultimate American objective in the War of 1812 was the conquest of Canada. American politicians positively salivated over the prospect. (You can still read their speeches the Congressional record)
Hence, the fact that we are still here is proof of the US defeat. Repeated American invasions of Canada were defeated. The conquest of the US was not a British war objective, just a tempting bonus once the US was on the ropes. Sadly, it didn't turn out.Comment
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What about the beginning? Glad you agree with my point.Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
In reality towards the end of the war the Brits had indeed turned their full attention to the former colonies and had intended a 3 front invasion of the states...
...and while I'm here.
Westmoreland - 9 pts."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
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how did the us lose vietnam if us involvement ended in 1973, pulled out all us military personel and left by april. then wietnam fell due to high corruption in may of 1975...I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotamyComment
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