Are there people who like to be oppressed?

[Az]

please, let's not get into the semantic bull**** of "everybody defines every word differently". It doesn't matter. Let have two simple words we use, and get over it:

Freedom: the ability to do whatever you want.
Liberty: the libertarian freedom, IMO. A state of a person in society, in which they are completely independent of other humans.

[Dr Strangelove]

I find that people who are anxious tend to prefer a structured environment, so it follows that in times of instability, crisis, famine, economic depression and so on many people long for a leader to tell them what to do.


oh, and........

[The Emperor Fabulous]

I don't like to be oppressed.

Dominated, however...

[Ted Striker]

Some have said the Russian mindset prefers an oppressive leader.

Russians?

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Dominated?

Russians?

I like where this is going.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Az
please, let's not get into the semantic bull**** of "everybody defines every word differently". It doesn't matter. Let have two simple words we use, and get over it:

You're oppressing Frankychan's opinion.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Az
Freedom: the ability to do whatever you want.

I for one love to be oppressed then. I kinda like the perspective that I can't kill people, even when I want to. That's because the ban applies to everybody else, andd thus is beneficial to me as well.

Oppression

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I find that people who are anxious tend to prefer a structured environment, so it follows that in times of instability, crisis, famine, economic depression and so on many people long for a leader to tell them what to do.


oh, and........

I guess that it's the reason that US citizen are accepting these new rules that are on it's way.

Besides that, I don't think that there are any genetic preferrence to this, but many years of ruling under circumstances without political freedom may lul people into tinking that there are no other ways.

If you are for real :



if you are a DL



damn how quick you get accustomed to a new environment

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Dominated?

Russians?

I like where this is going.

Me too!

[Az]

I for one love to be oppressed then. I kinda like the perspective that I can't kill people, even when I want to. That's because the ban applies to everybody else, andd thus is beneficial to me as well.

Oppression

It's not binary.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Az
It's not binary.

I think that's exactly the point Frankychan was trying to make.

[Az]

No, it wasn't. I am saying there are shades of grey. He's speaking about purple and magenta.

[Frankychan]

Originally posted by Az
please, let's not get into the semantic bull**** of "everybody defines every word differently". It doesn't matter. Let have two simple words we use, and get over it:

Freedom: the ability to do whatever you want.
Liberty: the libertarian freedom, IMO. A state of a person in society, in which they are completely independent of other humans.

The world isn't black or white, dude.

But if you want to go into definition:

Oppression: 1 a : unjust or cruel exercise of authority or power b : something that oppresses especially in being an unjust or excessive exercise of power

I'm pretty sure any sane person would realize the difference between an oppressed person and someone who is not. If security means giving up some of my freedoms, I would gladly do it. If adding more security camera's in public places and having extra police on the streets helps to make me and my community safer, heck yeah I would trade off some of my freedoms. Give up my "right" to bear arms? Yes I would.

People get "rights" and "privilege" mixed up and confused all too often nowadays. Driving is a privilege, not a right. Having the ability to be free from harm, violence, and fear...THAT is a right.

[Frankychan]

Originally posted by Maniac


I think that's exactly the point Frankychan was trying to make.

That is EXACTLY What I'm saying.

[Frankychan]

Originally posted by Az
No, it wasn't. I am saying there are shades of grey. He's speaking about purple and magenta.

We are apparently having a failure of understanding here...