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  • #31
    Run away! Run away!

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    • #32
      It was fun while it lasted Now off to bed
      I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JohnT
        Run away! Run away!
        I have a number of pictures eminently suitable as a response to this, but... I don't want to be banned for incredibly bad taste

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        • #34
          How about answering the thread's question for a change?

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          • #35
            No.

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            • #36
              IS that an answer to his 1st question or the most current?
              I'm consitently stupid- Japher
              I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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              • #37
                The latter.

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                • #38
                  In that case I'll use your answer as an answer to the former.

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                  and people wonder why so few n00bs join the OTF...
                  I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                  I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                  • #39
                    No one likse being "oppresed". MOst people like being protected, like stability, so forth.

                    Freedom is better than Tyranny, but Tyranny is better than Anarchy. Sadly, at too many times freedom was equated to Anarchy and thus the tyrants took over.
                    If you don't like reality, change it! me
                    "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                    "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Theben
                      and people wonder why so few n00bs join the OTF...
                      They do?

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                      • #41
                        no... no, they don't.
                        I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                        I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                        • #42
                          Not personally, but some people like being opressed as a group. Knowingly.
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #43
                            Freedom is assumed to be what everyone wants. It's assumed that I know you want Freedom, whether you know it or not. Of course, Freedom is better than outright fascism or Stalinism.

                            I don't think everyone wants to be oppressed. But then again, the individual would have to realize that they are oppressed. If said group or individual has only known what they know (being oppressed) and accepts it without thought of freedom, does that change anything?

                            And then there are other people that would give up some of their freedoms for other things, security/stability/etc. Like I said before Freedom is good but to just flat out assume that everyone wants it is hard to determine.
                            Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
                            Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
                            *****Citizen of the Hive****
                            "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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                            • #44
                              What kind of silly ass assumption is that? People isn't what people crave. I don't think that anyone thinks that this is the basic driving force of people. It is however, a good rule of thumb that freedom helps people achieve goals, which makes them happy, which is what they like.
                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • #45
                                Of course achieving ones goals should make that person happy. Self-actualization is what most people want. But there are different kinds of freedom.

                                Say, for instance you lived in a country where there were no elections and you had no say in how the government was run, yet you had the opportunity to move any which way socially. You had access to any career possible, yet had no say in what your government did. Is that still a free society? Or, say you could vote on everything possible but yet stuck in the job field your family had for generations and that's the only thing you knew. Same thing but reversed.

                                Of course I'm not saying people like to be oppressed, but to assume that every single person on earth has the same notion of 'freedom' as say, the US, would be ethnocentric.
                                Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
                                Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
                                *****Citizen of the Hive****
                                "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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