One in three S. African 10 year olds having sex

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Sudan is pretty evenly split between Muslims and Christians

Sudan is about 75% Muslim.

[Ben Kenobi]

1.9% (2003 est.) MALI

0.8% (2003 est.) SENEGAL

2.6% (2001 est.) SUDAN

5.4% (2003 est.) NIGERIA

4.1% (2003 est.) UGANDA

12.2% (2003 est.) MOZAMBIQUE

Seems to me that Sudan and Mali, while higher than other North African countries, is still less than the sub-saharan ones.

[Ben Kenobi]

And you were quite right about the Christians in Sudan. They are about 5%, which is higher than in other countries, but not that much overall.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yes, complex. Sexual promiscuity is a reality in most of western Africa, despite western Africa being largely Muslim. Men have a nagging tendancy at feeling that it is normal to have mistresses.

Given time, I could chart percentage of muslims against the HIV prevalence rate, and I think it would show my argument pretty conclusively.

[Last Conformist]

Someone should calculate the correlation. Personally, I'm too lazy.

[Spiffor]

My statistics software has expired, so I can't do it.

[Last Conformist]

If someone digs up lists of Muslim and HIV infection percentages, I think I can do the maths.

Let's stick to African countries.

[Spiffor]

There are many countries in Africa

As Islam is not everywhere in Africa, I think the stats will be more interesting if we make a difference between other organized religions (mostly christianty), and indigenous mythologies. I'll thus have three categories: Muslim, Other (Christianty, Judaism etc.), Local.

Algeria: Muslim 99%, Other 1%. AIDS: 0.1%
Angola: Other 53%, Local 47%. AIDS: 3.9%
Benin: Muslim 20%, Other 30%, Local 50%. AIDS: 1.9%
Botswana: Other 15%, Local 85%. AIDS: 37.3% (yes, that high)
Burkina Faso: Muslim 50%, Other 10%, Local 40%. AIDS: 4.2%
Burundi: Muslim 10%, Other 67%, Local 23%. AIDS: 6%
Cameroon: Muslim 20%, Other 40%, Local 40%. AIDS: 6.9%
Central Africa: Muslim 15%, Other 50%, Local 35%. AIDS: 13.5%
Chad: Muslim 51%, Other 42%, Local 7%. AIDS: 4.8%
Comoros: Muslim 98%, Other 2%. AIDS: 0.12%
Congo Kinshasa: Muslim 10%, Other 70%, Local 20%. AIDS: 4.2%
Congo Brazzaville: Muslim 2%, Other 50%, Local 48%. AIDS: 4,9%
Cote d'Ivoire: Muslim 40%, Other 30%, Local 30%. AIDS: 7%
Djibouti: Muslim 94%, Other 6%. AIDS: 2.9%

More later

[Last Conformist]

I'll throw some software at those numbers tomorrow.

[Patroklos]

but men sympathize with the male, not the female.

I would say besides his fellow frat boys, the exact opposite is true.

[Drake Tungsten]

Google finds a reference to a brother of Robert Mugabe of that name, but the document can't be accessed.

So he's Robert Mugabe's brother? Thanks.

Fine, let's withdraw all sympathy for those who never exercise, and never diet right and then suffer from a serious heart attack. Let's blame them for having the heart attack, and thus undeserving of our sympathy.

[self biased]

note to self: stay the hell out of south africa.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by MrFun




People who brought it onto themselves, eh?

Fine, let's withdraw all sympathy for those who never exercise, and never diet right and then suffer from a serious heart attack. Let's blame them for having the heart attack, and thus undeserving of our sympathy.

In fact, there are plenty of diseases and injuries whose victims we can turn a cold shoulder against because often, those diseases and injuries are a result of neglect or ignorance of the victim.

Hey! Don't do that with your eyes, you might get stuck that way, and I'd feel really, really bad. See? I got sympathy. Yup, sympathy I got, my $ I need for my own ****ing medicine. Some over weight person has a heart attack and dies, I say, "damn, too bad he ate so much, he has dug his grave with his teeth." I see a gay guy reduced to skin and bones, I say, "damn, too bad he couldn't control himself, he dug his grave with his dong". In both cases, that's sympathy. It's just too bad. What makes gays different, is that they want me to pay the price, while overweight people do not. Diabetics do not, etc. What's so special about gays? You guys better than me?

[Gibsie]

Originally posted by shawnmmcc
Gibsie - if you have a GF taking pills and she won't let you know what they are, evaluate your relationship and where you want it to go. People who use condoms do get AIDS, they just reduce the chances. If you are at all serious, sit down and explain your concerns. If she still won't let you see them, then you may wish to reevaluate what you are doing. My standing smart-a** remark about statements with silly exceptions is "She be really hot to go to bed with except that she has AIDS." Hopefully that isn't your case.

Good gosh, that's quite a misinterpretation (But perhaps understandable). These are 100% recreational drugs, that she takes occasionally, and definitely not HIV medication. Besides it's all moot as she split up with me and we never had sex.

On the plus side I can sill donate blood!

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Spiffor
There are many countries in Africa

As Islam is not everywhere in Africa, I think the stats will be more interesting if we make a difference between other organized religions (mostly christianty), and indigenous mythologies. I'll thus have three categories: Muslim, Other (Christianty, Judaism etc.), Local.

Algeria: Muslim 99%, Other 1%. AIDS: 0.1%
Angola: Other 53%, Local 47%. AIDS: 3.9%
Benin: Muslim 20%, Other 30%, Local 50%. AIDS: 1.9%
Botswana: Other 15%, Local 85%. AIDS: 37.3% (yes, that high)
Burkina Faso: Muslim 50%, Other 10%, Local 40%. AIDS: 4.2%
Burundi: Muslim 10%, Other 67%, Local 23%. AIDS: 6%
Cameroon: Muslim 20%, Other 40%, Local 40%. AIDS: 6.9%
Central Africa: Muslim 15%, Other 50%, Local 35%. AIDS: 13.5%
Chad: Muslim 51%, Other 42%, Local 7%. AIDS: 4.8%
Comoros: Muslim 98%, Other 2%. AIDS: 0.12%
Congo Kinshasa: Muslim 10%, Other 70%, Local 20%. AIDS: 4.2%
Congo Brazzaville: Muslim 2%, Other 50%, Local 48%. AIDS: 4,9%
Cote d'Ivoire: Muslim 40%, Other 30%, Local 30%. AIDS: 7%
Djibouti: Muslim 94%, Other 6%. AIDS: 2.9%

More later

Ah, forgot all about this thread. Anyway, with those countries, the correlation between the AIDS percentage and the Muslim percentage is -0.4755.