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What percentage of the world's population do you believe are going to hell?
We might get into purgatory if we're phenomenally lucky, if we're not slated for reincarnation or oblivion.
Then again, purgatory is just hell with an end date, oblivion's just the hell of non-existence, and reincarnation is the hell of doing this **** all over again.
Originally posted by Jon Miller
100% deserve to go to hell
I think the actual percentage will be lower..
JM
Maybe, but how can 100% deserve to be there forever with only a finite life span in which to have built up guilt? Only a finite amount of punishment can be earned in a finite period of time.
Christianity's insistance on everbody deserving eternal punishment has always been the part that makes the least sense to me.
Originally posted by Vesayen
Divide 10 by 0. It is a value of non existance.
The value of 10/0 is a value of non existance.
Is the value of 10/0, identical to a set of values, the set being 0 to 10?
No, it has the values 1 through 10, none of which are equal to a non existant value-they exist.
0 is NOT equal to a non existant value for the same reason as the ones above, 0 is a defined value, 10/0 is not.
10/0 != 0
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0-10% is not the same as no hell. It is the same of, at best, an unpopulated hell.
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Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
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Maybe, but how can 100% deserve to be there forever with only a finite life span in which to have built up guilt? Only a finite amount of punishment can be earned in a finite period of time.
Christianity's insistance on everbody deserving eternal punishment has always been the part that makes the least sense to me.
as I said
I dont' beleive in a place of eternal punishment
what I mean by 100% deserve hell, is that 100% deserve the opposite of heaven
which is eternal nothingness
JM
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Originally posted by Wezil
100% - We're already there my friends.
I agree, if there is anything that can be called hell, it is probably this earth
what the alternate eternal afterlife to heaven is, is eternal nonexistence..
Jon Miller
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I agree, if there is anything that can be called hell, it is probably this earth
Jon Miller
Actually I was referring to 'Poly, but we'll go with yours.
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I think there will be more 'sinners' in heaven then nice people.
I never said my thoughts were compatible with any hierarchical religionista organization.
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Only a finite amount of punishment can be earned in a finite period of time.
Christianity's insistance on everbody deserving eternal punishment has always been the part that makes the least sense to me.
That's one of the more radical things, and is why our time here on earth is so valuable. The fact that we have an eternal reward in heaven, as opposed to our short time here on earth, should remind people as to what is truly important.
Secondly, it isn't a matter of earning punishment, one would think one would earn our heavenly reward, but that is not the case. The heavenly reward is a free gift of God, and as such, we cannot earn it through our works here on earth.
Therefore, if it is God who determines our eternal fate, then this is more important than our sins. He can forgive us our sins, if we are willing to love him as he loves us.
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I would honestly prefer nonexistance over eternal bliss in heaven.
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