Why am I such a good friend!?

[Boris Godunov]

You meant to say, "I should be so lucky!"

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Colon
I know plenty of cases in which friendship turned into relationships. As far I'm concerned it can happen in any circumstance.

Usually, when you least expect it

[Space05us]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
You meant to say, "I should be so lucky!"

Buahhaha, no.

[Urban Ranger]

There's one trick you can try, which simply is keep getting closer to her. In terms of body language, you try to move from her social zone to personal zone, and then into the intimate zone.

Don't forget to leave her room so she can back out if she wants, or she may feel violated.

Just move a step or two closer. If she doesn't appear to feel awkward or uncomfortable, repeat a little while later.

[chequita guevara]

Let us know how it goes.

[Space05us]

Shes going swimming with her cousin today.

And She has to ask permission to go out tomorrow.*

And we just had a 20 minute conversion on the phone about damn near nothing. She sounded excited that I called. Thats a good sign yeah? It was only 20 minutes because Im a poor bastard and cant waste my minutes, stupid pre-paid phones.


*she's 16 so she still has to deal with her parents.


So Operation Che must be put off until tomorrow.

And I need to go change shirts without screwing up my hair, wish me luck!

[Mr. Harley]

Space - she's 16. Please oh please double check the local laws. We don't want you in the local sex-offender registry - don't laugh. In some states if Space is 18 and she is 16, he CAN be charged with statutory rape, which even if pleaded down can get him a sex-offendor status. Where are you again? I know it's in the Southwest.

[Ecthy]

Well it's not SOUTH west that's for sure

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[Space05us]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
Well it's not SOUTH west that's for sure

I moved to New Mexico Ecth, keep up with the times. It is very much SOUTH west.


According to the only thing Ive found so far the age of consent is 17. Thats no problem for me though, I can wait. A lot of the people around here tell me the age of consent is 16, maybe I should call the local police department/DAs office and ask them?

[Colonâ„¢]

Why not? Maybe they have some good dating advice as well.

[Space05us]

Originally posted by Colon
Why not? Maybe they have some good dating advice as well.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
There's one trick you can try, which simply is keep getting closer to her. In terms of body language, you try to move from her social zone to personal zone, and then into the intimate zone.

Don't forget to leave her room so she can back out if she wants, or she may feel violated.

Just move a step or two closer. If she doesn't appear to feel awkward or uncomfortable, repeat a little while later.

My idea is similar except its more along the line of increasing playful banter, flirting more and more heavily until you might be touching her .

I once bantered an old friend and ex roomate into bed. I was early 30s and she was probably late 30s so there was no youthful hangups

We were totally in a friend type of discussion and she was complaining about her ex and how he would pretty abruptly declare he wanted sex. I told her there were better ways to say that. She was "like what" and I said "You look so beautiful tonight that I can hardly wait until I get to see you naked and kiss . . ."etc etc. She looked at me for a second but the moment passed and a few minutes later another friend arrived.

After the other friend left we bantered and flirted for a good while . Never did anyone say anything that wasn't half jokingly so either of us could retreat back to friendship mode. You can read the clues here. If I bantered about sex and she didn't I would have retreated to friend mode. But she kept going until se were both flirting pretty well. She actually brought things to a head.

her " wow thats a lot of talk about sex .. . and you have been flirting with me like crazy. What EVER will I do with you ?"

Me with a big grin " Well I see 3 choices . . We can stop and go onto less interesting topics . . . We can continue flirting and driving each other crazy Or we can head into the bedroom where I can show you what I meant about lengthy foreplay. Personally I'd pick choice 3" The last sentence was accompnied by a laugh while I stood up and offered my hand. She took it.

Now the key for me was that even at the point of taking my hand, she could have turned me down and done it in a joking flirty way in which I didn't have to feel rejected . The friendship would have been fine.

I'm no superstar stud ( and am now a happy married guy) but when dating I often used banter to move things into more physical areas. When things are light and joking they are less threatening and I was always willing to accept a "no". Keeping things light means that they can give a "no" now even if they might be willing to give a "yes" later.

So banter and flirting are your friends. If you are good at flirting as you claim it is EASY to flirt yourself into closer physical contact where you can proffer a kiss. Heck you can even be obvious about it. If she wants to kiss you, she won't care that you are obvious.

[Mr. Harley]

It looks like 17, sorry Space.

http://www.actwin.com/eatonohio/gay/consent.htm

For real fun, here's the statute (unless it's been revised) http://www.ageofconsent.com/newmexico.htm

And if you can make sense of all this gobbledygook, you are doing much better than I am.

[Space05us]

For real fun, here's the statute (unless it's been revised) http://www.ageofconsent.com/newmexico.htm

And if you can make sense of all this gobbledygook, you are doing much better than I am.

legalese

[Space05us]

F. Criminal sexual penetration in the fourth degree consists of all criminal sexual penetration not defined in Subsections C through E of this section perpetrated on a child thirteen to sixteen years of age when the perpetrator is at least eighteen years of age and is at least four years older than and not the spouse of that child.

So It would actually be legal for a 16 year old and an 18 year old to have sex since the 18 year old person is not at least 4 years older than the 16 year old?

note: Dont worry, Im not going to test any laws. Im not an idiot.