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  • #91
    If I see something that is false, is it a crime to point it out? Especially when it is so categorimatically stated?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by DanS
      We don't have a $220 billion per year national deficit. We don't spend $80 - $100 billion a year on star wars. Stop making numbers up. If you don't know the numbers, find out.
      Alright Dan. It was late so I got the number wrong. Bush's deficit last year was $412.28 billion (I was way off and trying to do it by memory).

      Edit: Screw it its not worth it.
      Last edited by Dinner; June 6, 2005, 11:51.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by DanS
        Without knowing the actual numbers, he's just pulling stuff straight from his ass. st the way the government works. It has always been thus.
        Oh please! I got one number wrong (I typed a 2 instead of a 4) and you try to crusify me; if anything it should make you happy since it makes your beloved Bush look even better. Stop being a jerk.
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        • #94
          Bush's Star Wars program was advertised as $1 trillion over 10 years which comes to around $100 billion per year.
          Where the hell are you getting this number? It's garbage. It's an order of magnitude off.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #95
            unfortunately....


            Greece spends some 4% of its GDP on defense

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            • #96
              That certainly wouldn't surprise me. To be honest, I forgot about Greece.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #97
                see che?

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                • #98
                  I guess the report forgot to mention Greece as well.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #99
                    Last I heard, Greece wasn't Europe, jus a tiny corner of it.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • I'd love to troll Paiktis on this, but the only other European countries with higher military spending as a percentage of its economy are Macedonia and Turkey. Definitely worth a mention.
                      Last edited by DanS; June 6, 2005, 12:07.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • Originally posted by DanS
                        I'd love to troll Paiktis on this, but the only other European countries with higher military spending as a percentage of its economy is Macedonia and Turkey. Definitely worth a mention.

                        Great the one doesn't exist and the other isn't in Europe. Yet more accurate information from DanS.

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                        • The administration's current plan is to have three different launch phases with a peak cost of around $10 billion per year (their numbers but likely to be higher) through 2015. The problem is several administration officials including Donald Rumsfield have already come out in favor of a radically enlarged program designing it not to stop one or two incoming missiles but to provide a complete shield against larger threats like China's nuclear missiles. That would mean we'd need to be able to knock out several hundred missiles at once instead of just one or two. That's would mean cost per year would skyrocket.

                          Hopefully, the deficit will stop them from wasting even more money on this. In any event the CBO puts the cost for the three phases the Administration has already requested at $50 billion through 2015 not counting the space based sensors which Star Wars won't function without. That's just estimate the administration came up (not that those estimates are ever any where near correct and the true cost is always much higher) and is based on the assumption that the goal is to knock out one or two missiles at a time. Just what though. They'll try to expand it and that's where the costs will skyrocket.

                          Here's a report from 2000 which gives the numbers as $50 billion but I'd bet money that if we found a more recent report then it'd be much, much higher.

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                          • That's probably because the article was talking about developed countries. Four percent of a third world country's GDP doesn't amount to much.
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                            • Thank you. Spending on Star Wars is at $10 billion a year and decreasing, not $100 billion a year.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • Then why was the US included?

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