Xbox 360/Playstation 3/Revolution Thread (Part 2)

[Wiglaf]

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/maddennfl2006/screenindex.html

Pretty ****ing ugly. All this hype and these screenshots that you people always drool over are such bull****. I can remember the same thing happened with the PS2/Dreamcast...people over-estimating the console's power.

On a related note, games that show off graphics are really for kids anyway. It is silly how that continues to be the emphasis of these designers, who somehow are clever enough to trick people into thinking that the game of football consists of pressing the A button to pass and tapping it to barrel over a four-hundred pound lineman.

Perhaps it's because their audience is stupid.

[ixnay]

Want to use it as a regular controller and still retain all the fancy motion sensing?

Voila:



edit: this is only a mockup from IGN but Nintendo has confirmed that they are working on a cradle which will let you use it like a regular controller.

[DinoDoc]

Ok that solves my problem. Nintendo

[Asher]

Oh you can't be serious.

(Edit: the picture is an IGN photoshop)

(Edit2: yes, they say they'll have a cradle to use a regular controller...but you can bet your ass it won't be standard)

[Boris Godunov]

I think the controller for the Nintendo is pretty damn innovative (providing it works the way they claim), but I'm betting the console will be a failure regardless.

[Nostromo]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I think the controller for the Nintendo is pretty damn innovative (providing it works the way they claim)

Indeed. If it works as advertised, the Revolution's controller could be great for all sorts of 3D games, particularly first person shooters. Not to mention that it will also be good for strategy games.

but I'm betting the console will be a failure regardless.

I don't know, it seems to me that it could go both ways: it could fail, or it could be wildly succesful. I don't see how it could fail in Japan, for example.

[Nostromo]

Here's the Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer, from TGS. Apparently not prerendred. Its worth a look.

http://gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7624&type=wmv

Some other trailers from TGS. The in-game footage from Gears of war looks amazing!

http://gametrailers.com/tgs_2k5.php?p=&letter=&start=15

[ixnay]

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showpost.php?p=569357&postcount=285

How does [the revolution controller] compare to a mouse?

>From what I experienced, it seemed to be more precise than a mouse, but it's also much faster because it requires only a much smaller movement of the hand to achieve the desired effect. You just instantly point the controller at any part of the screen and bam!, that's where you're looking.

There is no lag.

There is no error.

It took a while to get used to the idea of how little effort is required to play a game with this controller. I kept wanting to lean forward and move the controller closer to the screen, and it took some practice to just sit back and just calmly move my hand ever so slightly.

At one point, someone said, "If you were to play a game with this against someone using a mouse, they'd have no chance against you." I had to admit it was true.

I've been using a mouse and keyboard for gaming for almost as long as I've been a gamer. I've logged over 80 hours so far in Battlefield 2 and I have a level 60 World of WarCraft character. If somebody had tried to tell me before now that a better controller would come along, I would have laughed at them.

But it only took me 5 minutes with the Revolution controller to realize that I don't need to use a mouse ever again.

[asleepathewheel]

Ah, the wizard. I remember catching that one in the theater and scoring a free mini-issue of Nintendo Power.


This controller looks interesting, but also annoying.

Hopefully it will be more useful than ROB

[monolith94]

What, no love for the glove???



"I love the power glove. It's so bad."

[Asher]

I linked to that video.

[Asher]

On the Xbox 360 controller:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/651/651988p1.html

TGS 2005: Our Love Affair with the Xbox 360 Controller
How do we love thee, 360 controller? We count the ways.
by David Clayman and Tal Blevins

September 18, 2005 - Sure, we've had a chance to play around with the Xbox 360 controller before, but with over 80 playable X360 kiosks at the Tokyo Game Show this year, this is first time we've really been able to spend a good amount of quality time with the controller. Over the past three days we've all been touching, holding and grasping the Xbox 360 controller, and yes, there's even been a little cuddling, spooning, embracing and snuggling going on.

David's Impressions

TGS not only gave us the opportunity to play more Xbox 360 games than ever before is also allowed us to put our hands all over Microsoft's glorious new controller. Sure the Revolution controller has all the functionality of the Dreamcast fishing rod, but how will it adjust to racers, shooters, hack 'n' slashers, and platformers? We already know the answer in the case of 360's little white peripheral.


The beauty of the 360 controller is that it is small and lightweight without feeling cheap. It also posses an excellent layout that puts every button within easy reach of your thumbs. When prompted to press the start button I found myself lifting my hand off of the controller out of instinct. This was unnecessary seeing as I could easily reach both of the buttons next to the central guide button with my thumbs. The guide button itself is an excellent addition that quickly brings up the Live menu. We entered the Live guide on numerous occasions out of curiosity and the irresistible urge to push a shiny sphere surrounded by glowing lights.

The bumpers and face buttons are more substantial than those found on a dual shock and the placement above the triggers conforms to the natural placement of your forefinger. More important than the layout, the 360 controller was never a factor when getting used to a new game. There was no looking down at our hands to figure out what we should be hitting. This is perhaps the controller's biggest asset considering that experiencing the software is ultimately what's important.



Tal's Impressions

The Xbox 360 controller is the best gaming device I've ever touched. After getting a chance to play around with the controller even more at TGS, I've found myself falling in love.



It's not too heavy like the original Xbox controller. It feels fairly light, but not like you can break it like so many cheap-o third party controllers. The hand grips are at the perfect angle for extended play sessions that won't tire out your wrists, and the smooth, white surface fits my hands even better than the S-controller.

I've been saying it for years, but the Microsoft has finally listened (okay, not just to me, but to everyone). The black and white buttons should have been on the back above the triggers since the controller was released in 2001. The button placement is perfect, and I can easily reach everything on the controller. You literally have 17 possible buttons within your grasp (A, B, X, Y, RT, LT, RB, LB, R3, L3, start, select, guide, plus the D-pad). That's a whole lot of potential at your fingertips in such a small area.

The analog triggers that we've all come to love on the S-controller feel just as nice on the 360 controller, and the bumpers directly above the triggers are in the perfect position and don't get in the way in the slightest.


I also love the idea of the guide button. Not only can it be used to access the menu system mid-game, giving you instant access to what used to be multiple button mashes on the S-controller, but it can also be used like a remote control for the system as you can turn the Xbox 360 on and off with the guide button from the comfort of your couch. How's that for the ultimate in laziness?

So far I love the X360 controller, and I don't want to leave it behind. The premium system is now a must for me so I can take the wireless version to bed with me and whisper sweet nothings into its ear.

[Nostromo]

It looks like Microsoft fixed most of the problems with the controller-S, particularly the lousy black and white buttons.

In other news, Sony claims that the PS3 controller we saw is not the final design.



I certainly hope so. Look at that horror! I wonder why they changed the dualshock in the first place. PS2 owners love it.

[Asher]

Lawsuits IIRC. Some company sued them.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by nostromo
Btw, you'll have access to SNES, NES, N64 and Gamecube games, free of charge. Some people seem to think this is cool. I don't care

HUH!?

If that is the case, I might be interested in reliving my game console days.