English town too disturbingly white

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


racial groups dont think. Individuals do. To some extent they are influenced by their cultures. I see no evidence that people from different racial groups think differently apart from their cultures. Do black skinned sunni muslim arabs in Egypt think differently from lighter skinned sunni muslim arabs in Syria? Do they think more like black skinned american Baptists? Do black skinned african american baptists and light skinned african american baptists think more alike, or light skinned african american baptists, and light skinned african american episcopalians?

Groups are made up of individuals. Individual behaviour has a genetic component. Those with a similar genetic makeup will be more likely to think in a similar manner. Keep in mind that I don't discount environmental influences.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Let's say my view became generally accepted in a hypothetical world in which racial differences were insignificant. Who would be harmed? If everyone recognised that individuals differed, and wouldn't necessarily conform to the average, they would still be accepted as individuals. Standards would be applied equally, and eventually you would see equal performance in ever racial group. The hypothetical world would then realize that there were no significant differences between its races.

I'm a little confused by this statement. I thought your position was that there were, on average, differences between the races. To take another hypothetical, if it was generally accepted that blacks were, on average, less intelligent than whites (even though individuals wouldn't necessarily conform to average), you think this would lead to no one being harmed and better overall inter-racial harmony?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Caligastia


Groups are made up of individuals. Individual behaviour has a genetic component. Those with a similar genetic makeup will be more likely to think in a similar manner. Keep in mind that I don't discount environmental influences.

Even if i accept that behavior has a genetic component, youre eliding the difference between behavior and thought, a huge jump. Its also not clear if by "think differently" you mean simply differences in IQ, or differences in ways of thinking. All in all, may I say that your own thinking on this seems rather sloppy and imprecise? Not a credit to our race, are we?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Kontiki


I'm a little confused by this statement. I thought your position was that there were, on average, differences between the races. To take another hypothetical, if it was generally accepted that blacks were, on average, less intelligent than whites (even though individuals wouldn't necessarily conform to average), you think this would lead to no one being harmed and better overall inter-racial harmony?

I think hes using "significant" in its ordinary language sense, not its statistical sense. But its hard to tell, these racial inferiors are so imprecise

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Kontiki


I'm a little confused by this statement. I thought your position was that there were, on average, differences between the races.

Yes, that's why I call the world with no racial differences hypothetical.

To take another hypothetical, if it was generally accepted that blacks were, on average, less intelligent than whites (even though individuals woudn't necessarily conform to average), you think this would lead to no one being harmed and better overall inter-racial harmony?

It would remove the "justification" for racial preferences.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


Even if i accept that behavior has a genetic component, youre eliding the difference between behavior and thought, a huge jump. Its also not clear if by "think differently" you mean simply differences in IQ, or differences in ways of thinking. All in all, may I say that your own thinking on this seems rather sloppy and imprecise? Not a credit to our race, are we?

Well, I think there is definitely a link between thought and behaviour. Our mind is the only thing that keeps our animalistic urges at bay.

I think there are differences in IQ and ways of thinking...all of the above.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Caligastia


Yes, that's why I call the world with no racial differences hypothetical.



It would remove the "justification" for racial preferences.

Did any of that make sense in your head before you typed it? Because it doesn't right now.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Worthingtons


What a poor argument, always turning to emotional appeals (i'm a nicer guy, I must be right) when scientific evidence is much to the contrary. It is blantently obvious there are differences, and not all of them can be put down to living conditions and current environmental factors.

Sunshine- let me fill you in on a few background details here. I've been watching people attempting, like Cal does, to prove that blacks are less intelligent and more prone to criminality due to genetic factors since 1999 on this site. Every one I've happily shot down in flames.

There are many examples in the archives, but if you think you've got science to back you up, then be my guest and attempt to prove it. I can guarantee that I'll enjoy it and you won't.

Go on hotshot. You've stated that science is on your side. Don't be shy.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Anyone remember this one?

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47021

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


Sunshine- let me fill you in on a few background details here. I've been watching people attempting, like Cal does, to prove that blacks are less intelligent and more prone to criminality due to genetic factors since 1999 on this site. Every one I've happily shot down in flames.

There are many examples in the archives, but if you think you've got science to back you up, then be my guest and attempt to prove it. I can guarantee that I'll enjoy it and you won't.

Go on hotshot. You've stated that science is on your side. Don't be shy.

Your position comes not from science, but ideology. You've proven your ignorance on scientific matters relating to racial differences. I remember explaining how genetic similarity works using different breeds of dogs as an example, and you responded by pointing out that dogs have been selectively bred - as if that made a difference to the principle I was illustrating. Your arguments are usually emotional and/or based on ignorance, and you get a real kick out of hurling insults and talking down to people. You have serious psychological problems, probably due to all the bullying you endured in your younger years.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Caligastia
You assume that all racial groups think alike.

I also assume that blood group, ear group, eye group, chin group, toe group, hand group or tongue group think alike. I don't see any reason to assume that skin group should make a difference, since skin is not implicitly connected to cognition.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Caligastia


Your position comes not from science, but ideology. You've proven your ignorance on scientific matters relating to racial differences. I remember explaining how genetic similarity works using different breeds of dogs as an example, and you responded by pointing out that dogs have been selectively bred - as if that made a difference to the principle I was illustrating. Your arguments are usually emotional and/or based on ignorance, and you get a real kick out of hurling insults and talking down to people. You have serious psychological problems, probably due to all the bullying you endured in your younger years.

Your position, as demonstrated in the example thread above, is based on cod-science filtered through discussion forums that you post without understanding. You lack either the inclination or the ability to critically evaluate the work you refer to. To cut a long story short, you'll grasp at any straws to prop up a racist agenda which you attempt to present as scientific detachment, and tend to make a fool of yourself in the process.

Despite your attempts to present your position as science, you still can't provide scientific proof that blacks are less intelligent and more prone to anti-social criminality than other races.

What's more, as we've covered many times, if you want to go down the name-calling route, I'll win. You are a genuinely pitiful individual. Why not bring your black friends over to Poly and we'll show them your past posting history?

[Hueij]

5 Euro on Laz. This is going to be great

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Come into the light, Cal. Accept the fact that in desperately looking for some tiny shred of genetic evidence to suggest that the darkies are dumb/bad you're blinding yourself to the massive and overwhelming effect that our environments have.

Accept the fact that despite your apparent conviction that there's a massive evil liberal conspiracy against whitey, we're both white and really doing rather well for ourselves- and likely to continue doing so.

Go to the archives and arrange the threads under your name. Are you proud of that? Would you want to show it to your son's future black girlfriend, or will it be a dirty little secret?

[GePap]

I have to agree that Laz' greater writing abilities make a flame war a no contest.

As for "whites" being discriminated in the US: I have to laugh at that. OMG! Your kid did not make it into Yale! He only made it into Princeton and Harvard, but if it were not for those dirty Negros, he would have made it into Yale as well!

I would love to see a single White Kid that can prove that they failed to get into any university because negors or Porto Ricans got in instead of them...

Heck, Geographic discriminatione xists as well! If people were chosen purely by a single standard of grades, half of the seats in all universities in the East coast should be filled with kids from NY, NJ, and Connecticut, and then those losers form the lesser states would be forced elswhere.