English town too disturbingly white

[Jaguar]

Look, Cal. Even if you were completely right, and Laz were completely wrong, he would still win this argument. Why? He writes a hell of a lot better than most people on this site, you included.

What makes this argument even more lopsided is the fact that he is completely right, and you are completely wrong.

However, I encourage you to actually listen to his arguments, and take them seriously. That could be a worthwhile thing to do. But if you are just in it to "win", spare yourself the trouble.

[joncha]

Why do you hate white people, Jaguar?

[Odin]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Stupid law. Absolutely stupid law. Race should never, ever, ever, ever be a factor and anyone who tries to make race a factor should be sued out of house and home.

[Odin]

It is idiots like Cali who makes the Godwinizing, hyper-PC people in some sectors of acedamia think everyone who studies behavioral genetics must be a racist.

[Provost Harrison]

Oh dear...Cali, you are so wrong. Don't even attempt to bring up the genetic argument because there is no proof of any difference in brain function whatsoever between different races, the only differences have been physical to allow adaption to different environment...the brain stays the same as it is the one massive competitive edge the human has in each and every environment.

Besides, even if we went with your argument, would you be willing to accept that people of Mongoloid descent are more intelligent than whities such as you and I, after all that is what the 'evidence' seems to link to. Of course the reality is that the causes of any differences are societal - it's all about opportunity!

[C0ckney]

both cali and laz are funny here, for different reasons though :/

[MrFun]

Cali is good for amusement -- in the same way that Ned is good for amusement.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Twin studies have proven that behaviour is at least 50% genetic.

This is a quote that fascinates me, on a number of points. I'll elaborate-

I'll guess it's research based on separated twins, raised under different conditions. If so, here are some potential shortfalls-

1- To fully distinguish genetic factors from pre-natal nutritional/stimulational factors, the twins would have had to have been separated from conception, not birth. I'm prepared to stick out my neck right now and suggest that this probably wasn't the case.

2- If it places twins in different social settings, does in ask us to assume that there are convenient sets of behaviours attached to such social settings? Do working class babies have working class behaviours and working class school results? This is a minefield all to itself.

3- In focussing on a search for identicality in behaviour, it may well up up focussing so firmly on a few coincidences that it misses the bigger picture. There are few things as complex as human behaviour and interaction, after all. Identical twins, in my experience, often show marked differences in certain areas of the personalities.

Still, Cal thinks it's proof, so I'll wait for him to post "science" that avoids those pitfalls.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by MrFun
Cali is good for amusement -- in the same way that Ned is good for amusement.

Just lucky they can't make babies together - mini Cal and mini Ned

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Caligastia

Horrendous poverty traps? Why do you think there are so many liquor stores in "poor" neighbourhoods?

Presumably for the same reason there were gin shops in Great Britain in the 18th Century- because people wanted oblivion from everyday life and cheap alcohol helped them achieve it.


The same principle applies with tobacco sales and consumption in developing countries, and the former Soviet Bloc .

Some companies will make a fast buck wherever they can, regardless of moral scruples or the consequences for society.

Why, I believe the U.S. Secret Service even condoned drug trafficking to and in the United States.


Astonishing what people who should know better will do, all for a little bit of money....

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Caligastia

The USA as a nation is obsessed with race, so that's probably part of the reason I've become so interested in the topic.

And so you moved there because you'd researched the country's history and development pretty thoroughly, eh ?

Actually I'm guessing that the Indian Wars, slavery, reservations, the Civil War, Jim Crow laws, the Klan and the Civil Rights struggle must have escaped your attention somehow.


May I suggest you move somewhere more congenial, like Iceland or the Falkland Islands ?


I would have suggested the Confederacy and the Third Reich, but it looks as though those travel opportunities have passed you by.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Sandman
Is a highly intelligent black person less black?

No they're just ashamed of their 'superior' white or semitic antecedents.


I mean look at Pushkin and Alexandre Dumas. If it wasn't for their white ancestors they'd have just been mopping floors and shovelling dung all day long.


Everyone 'knows' that black people can't count above twenty, build houses, make art, or write unless they have a Mighty Whitey Injection.


See this mask was clearly made by a European:

[Agathon]

The weird thing is that, having seen Cali's pic, I would have picked him as part Maori.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Agathon
The weird thing is that, having seen Cali's pic, I would have picked him as part Maori.

You hush your mouth.

Didn't you know Maoris once ate people, and when white folks showed up they hadn't even invented the combine harvester ?

[Agathon]

I know that Cali thinks that they shouldn't be allowed the same legal rights as other NZers who have been illegally deprived of their property.