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  • #31
    I repeat again , isn't Vader just too short this time ?

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    • #32
      Well I dunno, Anakin looks like he well and truly got his legs burnt off, that must reduce your height by a bit
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      • #33
        Then did he grow taller ( and bigger , too ) in the later movies ?

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        • #34
          Upgrades to his mechanical legs?
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          • #35
            It wasn't like they could get the same actor to play Vader . Just ignore it.
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            • #36
              After the 20 some years between Ep III and VI, the emperor hunches over from a lack of calcium?
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              • #37
                Kuci's review (spoiler warning):

                The opening battle was uninspired. I'm sorry, but even after having seen it a dozen times the 1st death star battle has suspense and an "edge-of-the-seat" quality. The opening battle was just boring. The Star Wars trilogy is awesome for it's great space battle's, but hell, I'd venture to say Episode I's final battle was more interesting than the opening battle of III.

                Anakin's conversion was weak. Just fifteen seconds ago he had said "don't kill him! it's against the jedi code!" and then he say "yes, master, I will be your sith and kill all the little kiddies." WTF? They could also have not made the conversion to the empire so blatant - Palpatine could have just called the Republic the "empire of democracy" or something. I think that Anakin's rationale should have been more "I'm defending the Republic" and stuff.

                WTF?! A special session of CONGRESS?!

                Whoever wrote that line should be sent to Abu Ghraib. It's SO ****ING OBVIOUS. How can you miss it?

                I think they should have had Padme die and then put the mask on Vader and have him take the breath, and just end the movie there. All the extra stuff at the end got stupid. ESPECIALLY the death star thing. I refuse to interpret the final seen as happening any time except near the beginning of Episode IV, even with the stupid proto-Star Destroyer in the background. It's a stupid tie-in, they should have just ended the movie dramatically with the Vader breath.

                Which leads me to the ships. Why can't Lucas at least throw a bone to the SW fans and had the Republic using Victory SD's like they should have? And Z-95 Headhunters instead of the proto-X-wings in the movie?

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                • #38
                  I was going to post in the other thread, but it seems to be little more than people arguing over Star Wars vs Star Wars: A New Hope. Yeesh.

                  Anyway.

                  Vader too short? Maybe he realized later on that height is intimidating and had extensions built into his cybernetic legs? Or maybe he just got platform boots.

                  --"And it doesn't explain why Natalie Portman calls them "younglings" as well. "

                  I figured it was a title of rank. Kids adopted into the Jedi order and trained are called younlings until old/skilled enough to apprentice. Who knows. I haven't read many of the books, so it's possible the answer is in there.

                  Anyway. I didn't expect much of the dialogue going in, so that didn't disappoint me. I was mostly there for the lightsaber battles. My biggest problem with the film is simple. No Boba Fett. How could they do that? If they do the TV series, he better get some good Jedi-hunting time.

                  Empire Strikes Back is still the best of the films. No real surprise. This one was better than the earlier two in many ways, but not all. Grevious looked as silly as I thought he would from the cartoons. Dooku went down too easily. Heck, so did Grevious. If the cartoon is cannon (only way to explain Grevious being injured at the start of the film), he was taking on five Jedi at a time and winning, so why did Obi Wan take him out so easily? Didn't match up to the menace of Darth Maul (hope he gets his dialogue restored if Lucas ever does a Special Edition DVD), certainly not the original impact of Vader.
                  Why didn't Obi Wan finish off Anakin, though? I mean, he did like the guy, you'd think he'd give a mercy stroke and not just leave the guy to die of third degree burns.

                  And the Wookies should have gone down hard, given their brilliant display of lack of tactics. Hey, we're in a trench, and the enemy is charging us so... let's all jump out and run at them? Okay...

                  Could have done without the attempts at droid army humor, too.

                  The Death Star construction at the end was somewhat odd. If rumor has it right, A New Hope was sort of a compressed version of the entire second (original, however you prefer it) trilogy, since they didn't know if they'd be able to make the rest. There was originally only one Death Star planned. In which case the decades of construction time make sense, given the scale of the project. But there isn't anywhere near that much time passing between ANH and ROTJ. He's had plenty of time to rework that last scene of ROTS... But why worry about continuity problems now?

                  Palpatine was definitely the best character in the film. Good acting and decent dialogue, plus some good fights.

                  Well, the lightsabers are still cool. And that's what's important, right?

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                  • #39
                    I figured it was a title of rank. Kids adopted into the Jedi order and trained are called younlings until old/skilled enough to apprentice. Who knows. I haven't read many of the books, so it's possible the answer is in there.


                    Whatever the case, it still sounds retarded. And I always thought apprentices and what not were called padawans.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Starchild
                      Upgrades to his mechanical legs?
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        It wasn't like they could get the same actor to play Vader . Just ignore it.
                        I believe it still was David Prowse (the original Vader) in the full suit. He undoubtedly shrank with age.
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                        • #42
                          I agree with almost everything Kuci said...
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                          • #43
                            Hey, Anakin is Darth Vader! WTF!?!
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                            • #44
                              Finally. For the first time since I saw RotJ in the 80's the magic was back. It felt like this was the 4th honest to god genuine star wars film ever released coming after a long uninterupted post RotJ gap. *THIS* is how I envisioned a star wars prequel would look and feel. The other two don't even seem to belong in the company of III through VI.

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                              • #45
                                I didn't interpret youngling as just being some sort of 'jedi speak' for "Children" at all. I think it is actually jargon that refers to kids in training to use the force. Not all children are 'younglings' but all 'younglings' are children, IMHO.

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