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[JohnT]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Who CARES what the OFFICIAL title was (ie, it's not relevant at all)? Was it or was it not added to the opening crawl well before the late 90s? Introduced far before the time period you are stating it was introduced.

Imran, the OFFICIAL title is so relevant that Lucas had to revise the original copyrights!

****, now, in order to have any hope of proving his point, we have a damn lawyer arguing that legal documentation is irrelevant.

[JohnT]

I am glad to announce that the last two pages are a spoiler free zone.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by JohnT

****, now, in order to have any hope of proving his point, we have a damn lawyer arguing that legal documentation is irrelevant.

It's part of Apolyton isn't it -- the unexpected is the norm.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by MrFun
we're also arguing about who is really arguing

I noticed that.

[Boris Godunov]

Spoiler:

Mr. Fun isn't funny

[Imran Siddiqui]

And what confusion are you alluding to? Who the hell would get confused by it?

Oh, I dunno, someone saying wasn't it cool in Star Wars when Yoda... and someone else saying, fool, that was in Empire, not Star Wars! And then having to say you meant the series, not the first film!

I challenge you to go to the man on the street and ask them what they think of the movie "A New Hope."

As the man on the street what they think of Episode IV of Star Wars. They'll know what you are talking about.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov

Spoiler:

Mr. Fun isn't funny

In order for it to be a concealed spoiler, the info has to be a SURPRISE.

[JohnT]

Niters... it's 2:20 and work tomorrow.

It's been fun.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by JohnT
Imran, the OFFICIAL title is so relevant that Lucas had to revise the original copyrights!

****, now, in order to have any hope of proving his point, we have a damn lawyer arguing that legal documentation is irrelevant.

He revised the copyright names? Big ****ing deal! How does that magically mean that people start calling the movies Episode X. Once again, I ask did Lucas have a brain wave, magically changing what people called the movies?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by JohnT
Niters... it's 2:20 and work tomorrow.

It's been fun.

It's only 1:20 AM here -- do you want to wave magic wands and switch time zones so you can have more fun with Imran?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

And what confusion are you alluding to? Who the hell would get confused by it?

Oh, I dunno, someone saying wasn't it cool in Star Wars when Yoda... and someone else saying, fool, that was in Empire, not Star Wars! And then having to say you meant the series, not the first film!

Oh come on. If one starts saying "Yoda," it's pretty much a given you're talking any movie but ANH. Only a lawyer with his head up his ass would be so pedantic.

As the man on the street what they think of Episode IV of Star Wars. They'll know what you are talking about.

Suuuuuuuure they would. That you think the every day person is so enshrined in the geekisphere to know this is beyond laughable.

Most people don't have a clue as to the episode numbers, they know them by the theatrical release names. And that would be "Star Wars" for the first film. I own a VHS from the mid-80s of Star Wars, and it doesn't say on the cover either "episode 4" or "A New Hope." All it says is "Star Wars."

[Imran Siddiqui]

If one starts saying "Yoda," it's pretty much a given you're talking any movie but ANH.

Its an example... heard of those before? Try another, what about the Battle of Hoth?

If you say Star Wars to most people, they'll think of the entire series, not just one movie.

Suuuuuuuure they would. That you think the every day person is so enshrined in the geekisphere to know this is beyond laughable.

To claim that people don't know what you are talking about when you say Episode IV of Star Wars shows extreme ignorance. Most people know the prequals by Episode number. Episode 1 and Episode 2 is how they are mostly referred to.

Most people know this Boris. People who had no idea what Episode 4 of Star Wars was, I'd be concerned that they had been living in a cave since the 70s.

[MrFun]

Imran is attempting to PWN using a rolling-eyes smilie.





I don't think it will work this time.

[JohnT]

He had to officially change the names so he could legally refer to the first film as "Episode 4: A New Hope" in, you know, legal documents. Like merchandising agreements, profit-sharing documents, and a whole host of other issues.

He insisted that any future mention of SW by his company and those who wanted to deal with them go by their new name. He also has the power to grant access to more... compliant... newspeople, one of the conditions was, I'm sure, to get the new nomenclature right. That's how he got the "message" out - through good old fashion arm-twisting leading to "proper" (in his eyes) media exposure.

Surely you're not so niave as to think good ol' boy Lucas is beyond such a thing?

I mean, ****, you were what, 17 when the first movie was re-released? You're part of the "lost generation", the group that grew up between trilogies - of course you don't remember what the films were called, legally and otherwise, when they were released.

[MrFun]

I would like to go to bed, but this is actually amusing to watch a drawn-out argument over something so trivial.