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[Q Classic]

Incidentally, I liked the movie so much I might go see it again.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's just it, they [i]don't], by and large.

Of course they do. Look at any internet forum. It's refered to as Episode 4 or ANH (if you want to be brief). It's why JohnT gets so pissy, because, in his opinion, it didn't USED to be that way.

He was anticipating the prequels, and by establishing Star Wars as "Episode IV," it would indeed eliminate confusion when he released TPM as "Episode I."

Um... everyone realized that the "Star Wars" was Ep 4, ESB was Ep. 5, and RotJ was Ep. 6. Calling it the PREQUALS and then calling TPM as Ep. 1 is not difficult to follow... most people watch the crawl.

Only the prequels are known by their episode numbers.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/

IMDB calls it "Star Wars," and relegated the episode number and "ANH" to subtitled status.

I'm surprised you didn't check ESB and RotJ:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080684/

IMDB calls it "Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back".

and:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086190/

"Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi"

So no, according to your IMDB test, the prequals are not the only ones known by episode number.

still to this day MOST people wouldn't have a clue as to what you'd meant if you said "Episode IV" or "A New Hope." But if you say "Star Wars," most people are going to know you mean the 1977 film.

You need to talk to more people. People know what "Episode IV of Star Wars" is. Or they'll call it "The first Star Wars movie".

But if I say, "I love the part in Star Wars when Han shoots Greedo," nobody who has seen them will say, "Wait, you mean ANH/Ep IV, not Star Wars!"

I like LOTM's description:

Originally posted by lord of the mark
as a general rule, if i say, "I love the part in Star Wars where Darth says "Luke, I AM your father"" (Sic) nobody says "wait you mean Empire Strikes Back". Of course they dont correct the quote either. Cause the folks I hang with arent like such nerds. But if someone wants to distinguish the first movie from the others, they generally DO say "the first movie" or "episode 4"

Thanks LOTM... that's exactly what I'm talking about! Star Wars can refer to the series as a whole (and does often). When you want to distinguish the first movie other phrasing is used.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
Incidentally, I liked the movie so much I might go see it again.

I think I'm going back on Monday .

[St Leo]

I recall renting an old video of A New Hope where it was labelled as Episode I rather than Episode IV. I think episodes were there all along, but no one gave a rat's arse until after the renumbering.

[Drake Tungsten]

Wow, the second half of the movie is so good that you almost forget how mediocre the first half is...

[JohnT]

It's why JohnT gets so pissy, because, in his opinion, it didn't USED to be that way.

It's not opinion, Imran, it's fact. Sorry the legal cites are irrelevant, but thems the facts, boy.

[centrifuge]

Originally posted by JohnT

It's why JohnT gets so pissy, because, in his opinion, it didn't USED to be that way.

It's not opinion, Imran, it's fact. Sorry the legal cites are irrelevant, but thems the facts, boy.

It is indeed fact, but unfortunately this is one fact that many of the younger generation of fanatical nerds may never know.

[Jules]

Woah!

Check this out.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/20/leisure.starwars.reut/index.html

LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- The final chapter of the "Star Wars" movie saga grossed a record $50 million from its first 24 hours in North American theaters, the highest box office tally for a single day, according to studio estimates issued Friday.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

That's just it, they [i]don't], by and large.

Of course they do. Look at any internet forum. It's refered to as Episode 4 or ANH (if you want to be brief). It's why JohnT gets so pissy, because, in his opinion, it didn't USED to be that way.

Internet forums != the majority of people. More evidence you live in a fantasy land.

Internet forums tend to be highly specialized in topic and hence, by default, draw the uberfans. That says nothing to what a majority of people believe.

Note that in this thread in this forum, most people have disagreed with you. So much for your claims.

Um... everyone realized that the "Star Wars" was Ep 4, ESB was Ep. 5, and RotJ was Ep. 6. Calling it the PREQUALS and then calling TPM as Ep. 1 is not difficult to follow... most people watch the crawl.

First, I would heartily dispute this. Until TPM was released, most people would have been bewildered had you referred to the 1977 film as either Ep 4 or ANH. Just because there's a note in the crawl doesn't mean that's how everyone thinks of it. I've asked a dozen people so far about this, and not a one knew a) which episode number was which and b) that the original was titled ANH. This is, by and large, only something SW fans know and keep to heart.

Only the prequels are known by their episode numbers.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/

IMDB calls it "Star Wars," and relegated the episode number and "ANH" to subtitled status.

I'm surprised you didn't check ESB and RotJ:



So no, according to your IMDB test, the prequals are not the only ones known by episode number.

Imran, you just practiced very disengenuous quoting and you damned well know it. The statement about the prequels only being known by their episode numbers was quite clearly referring to the rottentomatoes listing. Yet you parse it out here in a blatant strawman.

At any rate, your IMDB cites are self-defeating of your argument that the original film is commonly known by its number or ANH. If that were the case, why wouldn't they give it the same nomenclature as they do they other titles? There is utterly no reason not to do so, should your hypothesis be correct. You've pwned yourself.

You need to talk to more people. People know what "Episode IV of Star Wars" is. Or they'll call it "The first Star Wars movie".

You need to grow up and realize you're in the minority here. I find it funny you say this, when most people in this thread have disagreed with you, including most everyone who was actually alive when the films were originally released. As I said before, I was an original Star Wars kid and grew up with this stuff. You're a Johnny-Come-Lately trying to revise history without providing a shred of evidence to support your silly assertions.

Thanks LOTM... that's exactly what I'm talking about! Star Wars can refer to the series as a whole (and does often). When you want to distinguish the first movie other phrasing is used.

In cases for which clarification is needed, saying "The first movie" or "The original Star Wars" is a far cry from saying "Ep4 or "A New Hope." People will do the former two often, the latter two much less so, because most people dont know those are its designations. Only SW geeks do. That's been my point, so someone saying "the first movie" doesn't in anyway contradict what I've been saying.

[Jules]

I still have the THX boxed set edition for VHS (©1995) and no episode numbers appear in the titles. For "A New Hope," the Star Wars part of the title gets the emphasis.

[Jonny]

I saw the movie yesterday (but not at midnight, but at a more reasonable time), it was pretty darn good IMO.

Perhaps worth another viewing...

[JohnT]

And let's not forget Boris that the IMDB, being a site built largely upon fan submissions, is hardly citeworthy in a way that the United States Copyright Office is.

[Odin]

Originally posted by St Leo
I recall renting an old video of A New Hope where it was labelled as Episode I rather than Episode IV. I think episodes were there all along, but no one gave a rat's arse until after the renumbering.

Looks like St. Leo just PWNED Imran.

[centrifuge]

Odin, Moorhead State Nice one , before transferring the roomates and I held some very nice Thurs. night keggers on 181/2 street (Ohh the glory days )

[Dinner]

I can remember my parents old betamax copy of star wars had Episode 4: A New Hope at the top of the scroll which explains about the rebellion. The title of the movie was "Star Wars" but it did have Episode 4 listed and I remember because my friends and I had a long conversation about what the first three episodes were. That had to be n 1983 or 1984.