Chaos and Hate at Ann Coulter Speech, student arrested

[Ned]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Ned, please inform us how this is not obsene:

"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

1) She didn't say that at this speech.

2) While I don't support capital punishment, I understand her point about being harsh on Walker. When liberals so hate the US that they go off and join the enemy, they should be subject to very harsh punishment. A lot of people might believe that Nixon should have prosecuted Jane Fonda. If they had, perhaps Walker would have thought twice about what he was doing.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Ned


1) She didn't say that at this speech.

Doesn't matter if she said it at that place or not - it's her opinion.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by Agathon
They don't believe in anything other than power. Coulter is the classic example: she just talks meaningless ****, yet they lap it up. Most of it doesn't even make sense, but it doesn't matter – she writes a sort of right wing political pornography. Just as regular porno is designed to arouse and discharge sexual energy and not to inform you about anything, so Coulter's books are designed to arouse and discharge outrage at the enemy and not to inform anyone of anything.

Someone should smack her about – preferably one of the redneck pigs she's always praising.

oK NOT that i care but who is they here. i dont agree with what crap she spouts but, however in the same token she aint not different then what that black activist spoke, farraken. or however u spell his name..

[Ned]

BlackCat, we were talking about, I assumed, this speech.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Ned
BlackCat, we were talking about, I assumed, this speech.

Of course not, that would be rediciolous.

[Ramo]

From that speech:

“Some liberals have become even too crazy for Texas to execute, which is a damn shame. They’re always saying – we’re oppressed, we’re oppressed so let’s do it. Let’s oppress them.”

“This free speech thing is a canard… How about not letting traitors teach at universities? Yes, I realize I’ve just proposed firing the entire Harvard faculty."

[Ned]

Blackcat, then you suggest that the protester's were there to disrupt Ann's speech due to these past statements?

[Ramo]

Incidentally, here's what Ajai had to say about this:

AJAI RAJ

04/05/05

Open Letter to Anyone Who Gives a **** About Justice

I’m writing this in response to the spectacle that occurred in the LBJ Library on Tuesday, May 3rd, 2005, when Ann Coulter, a diabolical, ignorant, but nevertheless charismatic right-wing pundit, came to speak at UT. Ms. Coulter- yes, Ms, I’d personally think such a vocal female conservative would be making Bubba a meatloaf instead of addressing a politically-minded collegiate audience, but whatever- is the author of relentlessly mendacious anti-liberal books, such as Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right and Treason: Liberal Treachery From the Cold War to the War on Terrorism. She’s famous for having an ass that stores so many lies it makes clown-car designers envious. Like her or not (and if you do, I’m surprised you can read) she’s a Big ****ing Deal.

The title of the front-page story covering Ms. Coulter’s in the Texan was “Arrest Made at Coulter Speech”. You could also have caught it on CBS or in the Austin-American Statesman. The general idea is that some jackass made a scene, and Ann Coulter was also there.

I am Ajai Raj, and I am a jackass.

In his article, which I enjoyed and commend him for, Mr. Sampath quoted the former president of the Student Events Center, the organization which arranged the event. He wrote:

"The person had been disruptive the entire event," said Matt Hardigree, former Student Events Center president. "He took the opportunity to say something lewd and offensive and then made masturbatory gestures as he exited."

And what do I have to say in rebuttal? Not a goddamn thing.

Matt Hardigree got it spot-on! From the beginning I was yelling obscenities along with my friends, roaring at Ms. Coulter’s right-wing bull**** festival the way no one else had the balls to. Mr. Sampath writes in his article that (and this is my take) the protestors were told to be good all along. They were told to sit in the back and hold their signs and leave quietly. No wonder hippies get such a bad rap nowadays; protestors today might as well be ornaments on the Rightmobile. When I want someone to know I’m pissed off, I’m going to throw down and give them a good ****-ruining. I wanted to show Ms. Coulter that people are down if she wants to hold a circle-jerk, but we’re not gonna do it her way. Not me, at least.

So yes, the Q&A session came around, and it was pathetic. Her slack-jawed fans got up and licked her face so she could pat them on the head- one schmuck offered to be her bodyguard, and she smiled, doubtlessly making a mental note that she wouldn’t touch his nether regions if she were King Midas; liberal protestors posed well-intentioned but woefully timid questions and got shot down in a hail of ignorant ****fire from the She-Dragon. Standing in line awaiting my turn, I watched her send a moderate Republican, who had questioned the sheer incendiary magnitude of her rhetoric, walk away in tears when she tore him apart for daring to question her.

So yes, I saw my “opportunity to say something lewd and offensive.” And I took it.

She had just said something about gay marriage, the typical rightwing bull**** spiel that is still convincing people that the Bible is really the Constitution. Knowing that taking the time to say something insightful, specific, or even slightly critical would get me a lame comeback and a ticket back to my seat, I realized that the only way to win this battle was to fight fire with fire. Or bull**** with bull****. So, as reported in yesterday’s Texan, I fired:

"You say that you believe in the sanctity of marriage," said Ajai Raj, an English sophomore. "How do you feel about marriages where the man does nothing but **** his wife up the ass?"

And the crowd fell silent. Ms. Coulter stood stunned atop her stage, unprepared for a jackass to say something so utterly crude and to the point. Her pompous and mean air is enough to stump questioners into timidity, I wasn’t about to let her stop me. The audience members looked at me with raw disbelief; later, even friends who know me well admitted that they’d been surprised at how vulgar I’d been. The others in line for Q&A, mostly liberals, looked at me like I’d set their cause back forty years.

Did I give a ****? No. If I had a message, it’s that the whole thing was a joke- hell, our whole political scene today is a ****ing joke. Everyone’s out to either pat themselves on the back for being right or whine about how they’re being wronged without ever lifting a finger to fight for it.

So rather than dignify anyone else, I “made masturbatory gestures” as I exited. Again, bingo! I danced a jig and set my hand a-jerkin’ at crotch-level, sneering for the crowd and letting them know I was ready to roll. I yelled to my friends that we were gonna split and made for the door.

Two cops approached me. I figured they were going to tell me I had to leave, so I said “You can’t fire me, because I quit!”

“You’re under arrest.”

It was my turn to be shocked. I tried to ask them what for; saying “**** her in the ass”” at a college isn’t a crime, last time I checked. They apparently mistook my inquiries for aggression, and grabbed me roughly and slammed me into the door. Within seconds the backmost two or three rows was surging forward, following the scene as the cops dragged me out the door. They yelled and chanted; my friends were more outraged than I’d ever seen any of them before. As they pushed me into the car, I heard my good friend Jeffrey Stockwell scream, “THIS ISN’T A JUSTICE SYSTEM! YOU CALL THIS PROTECTING AND SERVING?!” The crowd took up a chant at the UTPD officers: “Shame! Shame! Shame!”

Shame is ****ing right. When I asked the cops why they thought I needed cuffing, they told me that they didn’t even see anything that happened, they were just doing as told.

As a good friend pointed out to me, it’s a scary thought that people who are given weapons and the authority to forcibly detain people can act without knowledge of a situation.

I’m writing this at 7:15 A.M. Wednesday, having recouped over a few cigarettes and some coffee after being released from jail around 3 A.M. I had a party waiting for me- twenty or so friends and supporters, who showered me with gifts such as a card, sodas, cigarettes, food, and a Blondie CD (go figure). Several civil rights-interested associations approached me, offering pro bono legal representation and showing their support.

I have no regrets. Was I jackass? Yes. Oh Christ, yes. But here’s the question people ought to ask themselves. Did I deserve to be arrested? Did the cops need to rough me up for saying bad words at what was at least masquerading as an open dialogue? Do the people of Texas- hell, of America- feel that “potty mouth” belongs on the list of punishable crimes along with “aggravated assault” and “armed robbery”?

As stated in the Texan article, I am charged with Disorderly Conduct, which is a Class C Misdemeanor. Other Class C Misdemeanors include DWIs, possession of drug paraphernalia, and speeding tickets. Without getting into the justification for all of those, were my naughty words and crude hand motions as imposing a danger?

This isn’t about politics anymore, however it might have come about. Either you think it’s an absurd outrage or you think swearing is a crime. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are Republicans, for Christ’s sake. Raise your hand if you watch South Park.

This is about drawing a line in the sand. It made me proud to see people standing up and calling bull**** when bull**** needed to be called. All politics aside, people ought to ask themselves, how far should our representatives of “justice” be allowed to go? Do the American people believe in censorship rights for the rich and famous?

I know I didn’t slay the insidious evil that is Ann Coulter, but I did give her pause. She can easily go to another college or hoedown or whatever and spew her tired rhetoric without worrying about me. But I’m not the only one who feels this way. Other people will call her on her ****.

And hey, Ann, don’t come back to UT. We’re better than your bull**** here. And I can think of at least one jackass here who can dish it out better than you.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Ned
Blackcat, then you suggest that the protester's were there to disrupt Ann's speech due to these past statements?

It's your choice of words, but of course they were there because of her hatespeech in the past.

[Ned]

Ramo, nice post. Confirms the police report in almost all detail.

[Ned]

BlackCat, the man himself says that he was their to shout obsenities and disrupt the speech as best he could regardless of what she had to say.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Id think id like a link to that quote...

[Ned]

Ramo, please provide a link.

[Ramo]

The Coulter quotes:

http://www.inthepinktexas.com/index.php?p=220#more-220

Ajai's letter:

http://www.burntorangereport.com/archives/003815.html#more

[Ramo]

Ramo, nice post. Confirms the police report in almost all detail.

Except for the stuff you were writing about a riot, or any sort of disruption besides Ajai's irreverent question/crotch grabbing. Incidentally, you haven't substantiated that. Direct quotes, please.