Spain poised to be third country to legalize gay marriage

[Atahualpa]

I really doubt Spain nowadays is any more catholic than other countries. There is an open gay guy (along others) in a show on tele 5 pretty every evening. Gays get mentioned in TVE1's "sexual information" show...
After all it was only here that I met the first person who said was not baptized. I guess hardly to happen in Austria.
Además en Spain you don't need to pay for church, which is the stupidness in Austria and the cause on why I'll break with them once I've finished my university career.

Anyway the arguable thing about spanish gay marriage is the right to adopt children. They granted it as well and I am not too sure that this is a good thing.
Ofc, for a child that lives in a youth-home or something like that it may be better to have some real person love and care for it, BUT while homosexuality does exist in nature, them having children is an artificiality.
Besides I think it would be VERY VERY hard for the child to get accepted by others. That's ofc not a problem with adoption, but with the tolerance of the rest, but still you can't change the whole world in one day...

Greetings from Málaga

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
The question is a good one.

Are that 70% willing to stand up for what they believe?

Are they willing to fight for it?

The question rather is if anyone is standing up fighting against it... obviously not enough.

I'd like to hear from a religious guy on why homosexuality is so bad.. and not the stupid god said it's a sin stuff which is just *****ing around... the octopus in my head told me to.... the same!

I'd like to hear why humanity would not benefit from it? Why is it better to resort to traditional values and having a family where the father works and the mothers care about the children or something like that. Why is that soooo much better, that everything else is undesirable crap?

[Timexwatch]

Would this be a good time to open a nice little gay wedding chapel in Sitges?

[Atahualpa]

I don't guess gays will wed in a chapel.

[Shi Huangdi]

What are the other two countries with gay marriage? I know the USA is one with Massachusets, but who is the third?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
What are the other two countries with gay marriage? I know the USA is one with Massachusets, but who is the third?

Canada and the Netherlands are the other 2.

[Boris Godunov]

Nope, it's Belgium and Netherlands. Canada hasn't approved national marriage rights as of yet, although most provinces have same-sex marriage laws.

[Atahualpa]

In Germany IIRC there is the possibility of a civil union

[Spiffor]

Edit: bah, Boris beat me to it

[chequita guevara]

I thought Norway also had legalized gay marriage.

[Odin]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I thought Norway also had legalized gay marriage.

I think they have civil unions.

[alva]

Spain
Belgium
Holland

[Ramo]

Zapatero

[BlackCat]

In Denmark gays can make a "registret partnerskab" wich give same legal rights as standard civil marriage.

There are discussions in the danish church about making a ritual to give "religious blessing" and the ususal relig fanatics are naturally claiming that it will be the end of all civilization .

I'm a little puzzled - how can Spain be number three ? It seems that it must be seven or eight ?

[Heresson]

Unions +
Marriages -
You can not mix institution of marriage, which is supported by the state due to its benefits to society, with gay couple unions.