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What extra benefits does marriage give to society that a union doesn't ?
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With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Recognition that gay people are every bit as equal as straight people."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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or as dumb as straight people.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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While I of course support the idea of equal rights and treatment, a gay couple can not be considered truly equal to a straight couple.Originally posted by Ramo
Recognition that gay people are every bit as equal as straight people.
A straight couple can produce children that they raise. Kids that carry their genes.
Ofc I don't think being biological father is so important... but still there is a difference.Comment
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Spain
Heresson's lame attempt to defend homophobia in the "institution of marriage"
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Gay marriage benefits society, too. So there.Originally posted by Heresson
Unions +
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You can not mix institution of marriage, which is supported by the state due to its benefits to society, with gay couple unions.
Could you take your self-loathing to other subjects, please?Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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I'm a little puzzled - how can Spain be number three ? It seems that it must be seven or eight ?
What are you speaking about?
Ich bin der Zorn Gottes. Wer sonst ist mit mir?Comment
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Spain poised to be third country to legalize gay marriage
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"If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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I don't guess gays will wed in a chapel.
What kind of strange question is this? Why wouldn't they?Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
Once again...Comment
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I love lefties making fun of fanatics by being fanatical
I love more that they think there is a difference."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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The Irony of claiming gay marriage is fanatical is very funny.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard ShawComment
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ah well... I thought the term chapel refers to a religious place owned and run by those who express against gay marriage... I looked it up on dict.org... says nothing about a religion involved.. WordNet: a place of worship that has its own altarOriginally posted by Hueij
I don't guess gays will wed in a chapel.
What kind of strange question is this? Why wouldn't they?Comment
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Really? I had 3 in my class alone...Originally posted by Atahualpa
After all it was only here that I met the first person who said was not baptized. I guess hardly to happen in Austria.
Exactly what I'll do. There was a problem that my g/f wanted a RC wedding (not because of faith reasons, rather because "it's supposed to be that way"), but I've already convinced her and her family that in case that we'll wed, we'll put on stage an individually planned atheist "ceremony". I.e. hijacking and altering elements from church ceremonies, having a pseudo-priest (I already have a friend of ours in mind) who asks us questions about being faithful and true and all kinds of brimborium.Además en Spain you don't need to pay for church, which is the stupidness in Austria and the cause on why I'll break with them once I've finished my university career."The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
"Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.Comment
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Yes, Spain has a Christian heritage. It also has a Muslim one.
Yes, and the Muslim one was the more tolerant.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
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That's only partially true. The most tolerant time was the first 2-3 centuries and with the arrival of the extremist Almoravids during the 12th century, muslim Spain was not a good place for followers of other religions - when jews start fleeing into medieval christian kingdoms, situation must have been very desperate...Originally posted by molly bloom
Yes, and the Muslim one was the more tolerant.
I'd say that most of the middle ages (say, from 1000 onwards), christians and muslims on average scale were pretty pari in terms of tolerance, both spheres with ups and downs."The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
"Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.Comment
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