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That is because Spain probably is the most harmed by the catholic church, since the beginning until yesterday
For instance they fully supported Franco´s dictatorship.
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Maybe not so much, but in fact in Spain there is a more than justificated resentment against the church for several reasons.
For instance they fully supported Franco´s dictatorship.Last edited by Thorgal; April 23, 2005, 19:49.Ich bin der Zorn Gottes. Wer sonst ist mit mir? -
I don't really know, but didn't it have something to do with anticlericalism of the other side?"I realise I hold the key to freedom,
I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
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Originally posted by Patroklos
I love lefties making fun of fanatics by being fanatical
I love more that they think there is a difference.
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So supporting Satan is better than supporting atheism.Originally posted by Heresson
I don't really know, but didn't it have something to do with anticlericalism of the other side?
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Franco is not Satan. If I had to chose between Franco and communists in the thirties, I'd probably chose Franco."I realise I hold the key to freedom,
I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
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Satan is god's neighbour. At least he's a believer.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
So supporting Satan is better than supporting atheism.
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Yeah, well, MY USA decided to intervene in support of the RepublicansOriginally posted by Heresson
Franco is not Satan. If I had to chose between Franco and communists in the thirties, I'd probably chose Franco.
It gave me -10 with Nazi Germany and Italy too
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Yet the choice was between Franco and the 2nd Spanish Republic, not communists.Originally posted by Heresson
Franco is not Satan. If I had to chose between Franco and communists in the thirties, I'd probably chose Franco.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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You forget. The Second Spanish Republic was the communists.Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Yet the choice was between Franco and the 2nd Spanish Republic, not communists."Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - ElokComment
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Not quite. They were a leftist coalition that included democratic socialists and others.Originally posted by Admiral
You forget. The Second Spanish Republic was the communists.
They weren't Bolsheviks, that's for damn sure. And saying they would have been worse than the fascist dictator Franco is downright disgusting.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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Its too bad that you can't make fun of the other side without aOriginally posted by Boris Godunov
Not quite. They were a leftist coalition that included democratic socialists and others.
They weren't Bolsheviks, that's for damn sure. And saying they would have been worse than the fascist dictator Franco is downright disgusting.
. I find that spoils much of the fun.
"Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - ElokComment
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Yes I'm sure that is true - its people like you.Originally posted by Heresson
Franco is not Satan. If I had to chose between Franco and communists in the thirties, I'd probably chose Franco.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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Well, it is easy to see where you come from, Heresson.
I am amazed with some people concept of democracy. Franco raised against a democratic governmet that was not comunist but a coalition of parties, the frente popular. Globaly it was center-left. In any case it is irrelevant if they were comunist or not since they were elected DEMOCRATICALLY (look for this word in a dictionary).
Historically the spanish church supported not only Franco but all the forms of absolutism and was against any form of advance. Of course they were where the money and the power was, against any social change dangerous for his own privileged status. When we refer to a rich person that works very little we say "He lives better than a priest".
For instance, at a more local level, they were always with the rich brutal rural oligarchy, "latifundistas", supporting a form of feudalism even worse than the medieval one. So it was logical to rural people to have a resentiment against the church if they were not rich or stupid.Ich bin der Zorn Gottes. Wer sonst ist mit mir?Comment
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It certainly appears that the RC church have shown their true colours in Spain...Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda SmithComment
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there is no point reasoning with heresson.
If he really knew anything about Franco, and the suffering of the Spanish because of Franco, he would be ashamed of what he wrote.Last edited by Alexander's Horse; April 24, 2005, 07:21.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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