Accounting is the most lucrative non-science/engineering degree

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by GePap


Actually, that is exactly what is wrong with that arguement:

Given that here in the US and in Canada (thought NOT in many parts of the world) if you want to study LAW and make your profession Law, as opposed to say Engineering, you need to take something in bachelors before you can move on to your required degree.

So the question should be: what is the staring salary for X professions at the point at which you have attained the basic degree necessary to carry that career out.

I wonder why the list leaves out degree's such as Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics, or Biology. Those are very popular degrees, yet nowhere on the list.

What? Why, other than the fact that that gives a false boost to law, medicine and other professional degrees?

If I'm interested in a career path for mercenary reasons I would certainly be interested in how much work it takes to get to my starting salary. If it takes 3 extra years to begin practicing law then there better be some extra ****ing cash in it for me.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Asher



Do you really get a Bachelors degree in Law?

What do you think you get?

[Asher]

Chart -> about bachelor's degrees
Law- > not a bachelor's degree
Auto Mechanic -> not a bachelor's degree

GePap -> argues law and auto mechanics should be listed alongwide bachelor degree jobs

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Asher
I blame the ineptitude of journalist (damn liberal arts majors) for excluding that from CNN's chart, while the information was actually gathered.

Many more (as a percentage) of students with undergraduate degrees in pure sciences move on to graduate work than do students with undergraduate degrees in applied sciences, engineering or arts.

[Drogue]

Re: Accounting is the most lucrative non-science/engineering degree

Originally posted by Kidicious
The average starting salary ($43k) is even higher than Information Science and Civil Engineering. Yay!

This is such an American based chart. In the UK, you'd virtually reverse it. Science paying more than arts? IIRC, from about 2 or 3 years ago, the highest payign degrees in the UK are Dentistry, Economics, Management, IT and Maths. The highest paying graduate jobs being banking, business, IT and consultancy ones, it's not hard to see why.

People who study natural sciences only get high salaries if they choose to go into management or business with them.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Kontiki
What do you think you get?

Since a Bachelor's degree is 4 years, I don't know.

Pre-Law is 4 years and then Law is 3 years.

You tell me.

Edit: Isn't law a PD (Professional Degree)?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Kontiki


What do you think you get?

a JD or LLD?

[Asher]

Re: Re: Accounting is the most lucrative non-science/engineering degree

Originally posted by Drogue


This is such an American based chart. In the UK, you'd virtually reverse it. Science paying more than arts? IIRC, from about 2 or 3 years ago, the highest payign degrees in the UK are Dentistry, Economics, Management, IT and Maths. The highest paying graduate jobs being banking, business, IT and consultancy ones, it's not hard to see why.

People who study natural sciences only get high salaries if they choose to go into management or business with them.

Can we correlate the rise of power of the artsy people in the UK with the downfall of the British Empire?

[Japher]

I've had people tell me that I have "the coveted chemical engineering degree"...

The richest person I know is an accountant

The second richest person I know has a degree in journalism and a masters in buisness

The third richest person I know has a degree in English

The fourth richest person I know is my dad; biology, dentistry, and is a periodontist

[GePap]

Originally posted by Asher
Chart -> about bachelor's degrees
Law- > not a bachelor's degree
Auto Mechanic -> not a bachelor's degree

GePap -> argues law and auto mechanics should be listed alongwide bachelor degree jobs

As A social scientist, I question the worth of studies, or at least their usefulness, specially in the face of people such as yourself with an ideological ax to grind in favor of your chosen career.

The Chart itself is a useful example of how information gets used, or misused.

Obviously, if we use Krazyhorse's method, leaving out Technical schools gives you a deeply incomplete picture, but then, given the course of the Study, one can see the bias.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Asher
Do you really get a Bachelors degree in Law?

We do. Damn good degree, though about the hardest workers at uni. The hardest at Oxford, though at most places medicine would be more work.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by GePap


As A social scientist, I question the worth of studies, or at least their usefulness, specially in the face of people such as yourself with an ideological ax to grind in favor of your chosen career.

The Chart itself is a useful example of how information gets used, or misused.

Obviously, if we use Krazyhorse's method, leaving out Technical schools gives you a deeply incomplete picture, but then, given the course of the Study, one can see the bias.

Bias my ass. It's there to provide information to freshmen in university who can't make up their minds.

As such it's useful.

[Drogue]

Re: Re: Re: Accounting is the most lucrative non-science/engineering degree

Originally posted by Asher
Can we correlate the rise of power of the artsy people in the UK with the downfall of the British Empire?

No, other way round. British Empire fell when it stopped being dominated solely by Oxbridge Classicists and started to widen itself slightly. Universities used to be solely arts, when science became recognised was about when the Empire collapsed.

Any more silly trolls to through at it?

[Asher]

Originally posted by GePap
As A social scientist, I question the worth of studies, or at least their usefulness, specially in the face of people such as yourself with an ideological ax to grind in favor of your chosen career.

The Chart itself is a useful example of how information gets used, or misused.

Obviously, if we use Krazyhorse's method, leaving out Technical schools gives you a deeply incomplete picture, but then, given the course of the Study, one can see the bias.

I admit there is a liberal-arts bias to journalism quite freely!

The axe to grind isn't with me, you're the one making ridiculous posts that make no sense to defend your chosen career.

You want associate degree/diploma graduates and professional degree graduates to be considered in a chart about bachelor's degree. Duh.

FWIW, I think after 2-3 years Professional Engineers get even higher salaries. They're not considered real engineers until they work under an engineer for 2-3 years and pass some tests after that point...or at least how that is in Canada. They can do far more (and get paid far more) after that time.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Lets go Econ, Lets go!

BA in Econ sucks. I think that stat is mostly BS degrees (finance).