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  • Originally posted by GePap
    If you want freshmen to make up their minds, have them take core requirements so they actually experience the different professions. Lists like this certainly won't do it, as the low number of engineering students compared to liberal arts majors shows all too well.
    That's what happens when you have admission standards like engineering does.

    Anyone with a GED can get into an arts program...
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    • Asher: You know GePap's comment about civilised states was just to argue against your silly "civilised states have law as a postgrad course". Don't twist it as if he's comparing it to the thread title.
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      • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Accounting is the most lucrative non-science/engineering degree

        Originally posted by Drogue
        Degrees get you jobs?
        Ummm..... Yeah. Look at the statistics on the OP.
        Most graduate jobs (IIRC ~60% of them) here ask for any degree, just to have a degree.
        Degrees get you jobs?
        That's a real bad idea. The job market isn't nearly as great as you claim it is. Maybe if you get straight A's it doesn't matter. Buy you would still get a better job with a BS, because most people realize that it's better specific training.
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        • Originally posted by Drogue
          Asher: You know GePap's comment about civilised states was just to argue against your silly "civilised states have law as a postgrad course". Don't twist it as if he's comparing it to the thread title.
          My "civilized" comment was about BA vs BSc. Had nothing to do with Law being a bachelor's degree.
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          • In the UK the university you attended is more important than the subject which is more important than whether you got the BA or BSc. It is a pecking order like that when considering non-specific jobs.
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            • Originally posted by Asher

              Your argument has reached even higher absurdity levels.

              Now you're talking not only about degrees that are not comparable, but you're talking about other regions of the world as if it mattered?

              The content of the study is bachelor's degree starting salaries in the USA.

              Are you done making an ass of yourself yet?
              One wopuld have hoped your wonderful engineering degree would have included a basic class in reading comprehension. Obviously it did NOT.

              Sad, really.
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              • I don't have an engineering degree.

                I agree, it is sad.

                Do you still argue that it is reasonable to compare law salaries with that of a 4-year bachelor degre?
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                • No, I think its obvious to compare one applied degree to another applied degree. Unlike you, I am not stuck thinking solely of meaningless labels, but on everyday reality.
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                  • Originally posted by GePap
                    No, I think its obvious to compare one applied degree to another applied degree. Unlike you, I am not stuck thinking solely of meaningless labels, but on everyday reality.
                    Au contraire, you're the one stuck on meaningless labels, and not the everyday reality.

                    Getting a law degree takes 7 years, getting a Bachelor's takes 4 years.

                    The two are incomparable for salary, for (what I hoped to be) obvious reasons.

                    Instead, we have a prime example of GePap illustrating why the Liberal Arts starting salaries are so low.
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                    • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Accounting is the most lucrative non-science/engineering

                      Originally posted by Kidicious
                      That's a real bad idea. The job market isn't nearly as great as you claim it is. Maybe if you get straight A's it doesn't matter. Buy you would still get a better job with a BS, because most people realize that it's better specific training.
                      But we don't have the difference between BSc and BA. They're just degrees. The job market isn't great, we have very low unemployment so there aren't mny jobs out there. However most graduate jobs still don't look for specific degrees. Many do look at what you've done, and analytical and numerical skills are highly desired, but the difference betweena BSc and a BA does not exist in the same way here, so you tell by looking at what classes they took.
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                      • Wow, you are so well versed as to think that Political Science is a Liberal Art's degree....man, the depth of that engineering degree is pathetic.

                        Getting a law degree in the US takes 7 years because of the policy of Law Schools, not on the nature of the degree itself.

                        It is the nature of the degree that matters, not any arbitrary acceptance requirements at schools.

                        But as an engineer, such use of language is obviously beyond your ability to understand. If only they had attempted to give you a deeper, more rounded education....
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                        • The point is....

                          I get to count whatever I want and exclude whatever else I want to make my point.


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                          • Originally posted by GePap
                            Wow, you are so well versed as to think that Political Science is a Liberal Art's degree....man, the depth of that engineering degree is pathetic.

                            Getting a law degree in the US takes 7 years because of the policy of Law Schools, not on the nature of the degree itself.
                            Does not matter, at all. I'm all about the practical, I don't care that technically it doesn't require a bachelor's degree beforehand...in the real world, they do.

                            It is the nature of the degree that matters, not any arbitrary acceptance requirements at schools.
                            No, GePap, the real world is what matters. It doesn't matter if you theoretically don't need a bachelor's degree before a law degree...in the real world, you do.

                            The "nature of the degree" is irrelevant in this case.

                            But as an engineer, such use of language is obviously beyond your ability to understand. If only they had attempted to give you a deeper, more rounded education....
                            I really don't think you're in a position to talk here, GePap. You're being completely nonsensical...

                            (And yes, as far as I'm concerned Political Science is a Liberal Arts degree -- one of the more useless, too)
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                            • Originally posted by Asher

                              Does not matter, at all. I'm all about the practical, I don't care that technically it doesn't require a bachelor's degree beforehand...in the real world, they do.
                              That would depend on the Law School, no?


                              No, GePap, the real world is what matters. It doesn't matter if you theoretically don't need a bachelor's degree before a law degree...in the real world, you do.

                              The "nature of the degree" is irrelevant in this case.


                              Actually, its quite relevant. This chart is simply a collection of data when people decide that the degree they have gotten is enough for them to go out there and get work. As Krazyhorse pointed out, individuals who get certain degrees are far less likely to try to get a job after it than others-thus skewigin the results of a study like this.

                              I really don't think you're in a position to talk here, GePap. You're being completely nonsensical...

                              (And yes, as far as I'm concerned Political Science is a Liberal Arts degree -- one of the more useless, too)
                              Actually, I am commenting on the nature of this study-. The real way to measure the worth of any degree would be to do a study (not a survey) of the graduates of any one major and look at thier earnings throught the years.

                              Oh, and you should know, no one gives a rats ass about the opinions of an engineer outside of their given field. After all, you are not educated well enough to be giving out any opinion outside of the technical.

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                              • IMO a degree in poli sci is in actuality just like a degree in liberal arts. Either degree would qualify you for a job that you got with one or the other.
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