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Archaeological and linguistic evidence indicates that the Cherokee migrated in prehistoric times from present-day Texas or northern Mexico to the Great Lakes area. Wars with the Iroquois (Haudenosaunee) tribes and with the Delaware (Lenni Lenape), both of whom controlled extensive lands in the region, pushed the Cherokee southeast to the mountains and valleys of the southern part of the Appalachian chain. They settled in modern western Virginia, western West Virginia, western North Carolina, eastern Tennessee, southeastern Kentucky, northwestern South Carolina, northern Georgia, and northern Alabama. The Spanish explorer Hernando de Soto encountered them in the Appalachians in 1540. By 1715 smallpox had reduced the Cherokee population to about 11,000.
During the British and French struggle for control of colonial North America, the Cherokee provided warriors in support of the British, but revolted against them in 1760 in the Cherokee War under Cherokee war chief Oconostota. During the American Revolution (1775-1783) tribal members aided Great Britain with sporadic attacks on outlying settlements. In 1785 a number of bands negotiated a peace treaty with the United States, but Cherokee resistance continued for a decade thereafter. In 1791 a new treaty reconfirmed the earlier one; part of Cherokee territory was ceded to the United States, and the permanent rights of the tribe to the remaining territory were established. Between 1790 and 1819, several thousand of the tribe migrated west of the Mississippi.
In 1820 the Cherokee established a republican governmental system modeled on that of the United States, with an elected principal chief, a senate, and a house of representatives. In 1827 they drafted a constitution and incorporated as the Cherokee Nation.
Meanwhile, valuable gold deposits were discovered in tribal lands, which by previous cessions had been reduced to about 2,830,000 hectares (about 7 million acres) in northwestern Georgia, eastern Tennessee, and southwestern North Carolina. In 1819 Georgia appealed to the U.S. government to remove the Cherokee from Georgia lands. When the appeal failed, attempts were made to purchase the territory. In retaliation the Cherokee Nation enacted a law forbidding any such sale on punishment of death. In 1828 the Georgia legislature outlawed the Cherokee government and confiscated tribal lands. Cherokee appeals for federal protection were rejected by President Andrew Jackson. In 1832 the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Georgia legislation was unconstitutional; federal authorities, following Jackson’s policy of Native American removal, ignored the decision.
About 500 leading Cherokee agreed in 1835 to cede the tribal territory in exchange for $5,700,000 and land in the Indian Territory (now Oklahoma). Their action was repudiated by more than nine-tenths of the tribe, and several members of the group were later assassinated. In 1838 federal troops began forcibly evicting the Cherokee. Approximately 1,000 Cherokee escaped to the North Carolina mountains, purchased land, and incorporated in that state; they were the ancestors of the present-day Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians of North Carolina.
Meanwhile, most of the tribe were driven west about 1,285 km (about 800 mi) in a forced march, known as the Trail of Tears. About 4,000 perished through hunger, disease, exposure, and attacks by bandits during the journey or in stockades awaiting removal. Others died after their arrival in the Indian Territory from disease or food shortages. In the Indian Territory the Cherokee reorganized their government under their chief, John Ross, and became known as the Western Band, or the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. The Cherokee, along with other Southeast tribes relocated to the Indian Territory—the Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole—became known to non-Indians as one of the Five Civilized Tribes because of their having adopted many Euro-American customs
Jackson supported Georgia in its effort to deprive the Cherokee nation of its land. Jackson claimed that he had “no power to oppose the exercise of sovereignty of any state over all who may be within its limits.” The Cherokee appealed to the Supreme Court, and in Worcester v. Georgia, Chief Justice John Marshall ruled against Georgia. Marshall stated that the federal government had exclusive jurisdiction over Native American lands. To this Jackson is said to have replied, “John Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it.” Of course the court had no enforcement power of its own, so the decision was ignored. Within a few years most of the Cherokee were removed in a 1285-km (800-mi) forced march, during which thousands of them died.
In 1834 the Indian Territory (now Oklahoma) was created as a permanent homeland for the Native Americans who lived east of the Mississippi River. By the end of Jackson’s second administration the army had forcefully moved most of these eastern tribes to their new “home.” The Black Hawk War of 1832 and the Seminole War that was renewed in 1835 represented the last efforts of the eastern Native Americans to retain their ancestral lands.
The Cherokees are a perfect example, of one tribe that attempted to overcome that "cultural incompatability" to which the US response was the takling of their lands and a forced march west-that is ethnic cleansing. The Iriquois confenderacy met a similar end, thoguht there I guess you would say it was OK as retribution for support of the British in the war of independence.
This is the Nedaverse at its height- "cultural incompatability" is not an excuse for ethnic cleasing and attempts at cultural genocide. After all, a decision of which cultures are "uncompatbile" can be made by anyone- heck, hitler certainly did see German culture as incompatible with inferior Slav culture. I guess it would have been OK if the Slavs had been limited to their own "reservations"
GePap, I said, did I not, that Andrew Jackson and his policies were an exception? He took action against the Indian tribes that had "civilized" and could maintain themselves peacefully side by side with Europeans. There is no doubt in my mind that Jackson, the founder of the Democrat party, was a racist through and through.
GePap, I said, did I not, that Andrew Jackson and his policies were an exception? He took action against the Indian tribes that had "civilized" and could maintain themselves peacefully side by side with Europeans. There is no doubt in my mind that Jackson, the founder of the Democrat party, was a racist through and through.
Your statement was not clear at all. And the basic fact you excused ethnic cleasing in the service of territorial aggrandizement make you sound far more like Jackson than anyone.
Oh, and during your attacks on the judiciary during the Schiavo case. did you not state that the admin. should immitate Jackson and his contempt for the rule of law?
If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
Your statement was not clear at all. And the basic fact you excused ethnic cleasing in the service of territorial aggrandizement make you sound far more like Jackson than anyone.
Oh, and during your attacks on the judiciary during the Schiavo case. did you not state that the admin. should immitate Jackson and his contempt for the rule of law?
You got me totally backwards, GePap. I said I would not support ignoring the judiciary. I specifically condemned Jackson and Clinton/Reno.
My comments on the Indians was directed at cultural incompatibility as the cheif source of Indian migration Westward over hundreds of years. The Cherokee's, in contrast, had "civilized" and adopted Western culture. They were unlawfully moved Westward by Jackson, a racist Democrat, who was condemned by the Whigs, the predecessors of the Republican Party.
And, btw, the way Jackson was opposed recognizing American indians as civilized and supported their removal from "America" is very reminiscient of Hitler's attitude that non Germans could not be citizens of the Reich and further, had to be removed from Germany. Now the world condemns Hitler for his racism. But Andy Jackson is still the hero for all Democrats. Go figure.
Originally posted by Kuciwalker
The Klan are still active, but not as a terror organization.
Klan splinters, however, are active as terrorist organizations.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Originally posted by Ned
And, btw, the way Jackson was opposed recognizing American indians as civilized and supported their removal from "America" is very reminiscient of Hitler's attitude that non Germans could not be citizens of the Reich and further, had to be removed from Germany. Now the world condemns Hitler for his racism. But Andy Jackson is still the hero for all Democrats. Go figure.
he's not my hero.
I watching this thing on the history channel about his campaign in Florida. I missed part of it, but it looked like he tried those 2 englishman using a military tribunal (sound familiar?) with no legal representation. Both were put to death. A complete farce for a trial. Not to mention the whole illegal campagin in Florida (though that can be traced back to an administration that supported Jackson)
Originally posted by Ned
BTW, I have not idea why the Democrat party continues to honor Andrew Jackson. He was hardly an example of a good man, let alone a good president.
Lord only knows. The man was a demagouge and dangerous to the country. Fortunately he had respect for democracy, cuz a lot of people wanted him to be an American Napoleon.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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