My Friend and I are Debating Over Wether Boxing is About the KO or the Points

[DanS]

The training must be a killer. Just sparring with friends, after a minute or two I could hardly move my arms to hit back or defend myself. That's really tough, even if I was out of shape. Wrestling is tough, but not that tough. Rugby isn't that tough, although it's rough. Football, at least American rules, is pretty rough, but not tough.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Pro-wrestling
Mexican pro-wrestling
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pro boxing

I completely agree

[child of Thor]

yeah there is a difference in rough and tough - i see where your coming from and agree.

I trained for 4 months - 5am every morning and again in the evenings! and my sparing partner was sometimes a super-heavy weight(i was middle!), who had already put two guys out from competing in the fight through concussions.

The training was definately the hardest(and most fun) part, luckily i was super fit then or it could have killed me i remember thinking at the time.

crazy sport, but yes the toughest for sure!

Rugby/American football/Aussie rules the roughest.

[DanS]

Well my hat's off to you.

[Agathon]

Boxing is barbaric and should be outlawed.

Go play with the other girls.

When it's refereed properly and you get rid of the silly, violent hyping of matches, it's a fine sport.

[child of Thor]

well fittness was the key, cardio type - i suffered much less and breezed through the fights on my fitness levels, i could just keep throwing the punches taking the hits and move around with no trouble at all.

In training, especially in the begining just a minute or two of sparing would suck your energy, much like you were describing. But if you carried it on for a few months you'd notice a big difference. very good as fitness training, probably the best i've done.

I wasn't a great fighter, just very fit and lucky i reckon. put me in with a guy with better technique or more experience and i would have struggled for sure.

Plus i'm kinda a gentle guy too - i'd rather talk my way out of a situation, violence isn't the best option

[reds4ever]

Re: My Friend and I are Debating Over Wether Boxing is About the KO or the Points

Originally posted by Space05us
I say its about scoring as many points as you can, if you score a KO, great!

My friend says the whole point it to score a KO, the points are only used to judge the winner if there is none (a KO).


What say you?

You are right, theres an adage in boxing "Don't look for the knockout, just let it come".

If you look for the knockout, you load up on your punches too much and end up 'telegraphing' your punches

[Capt Dizle]

Originally posted by child of Thor
well fittness was the key, cardio type - i suffered much less and breezed through the fights on my fitness levels, i could just keep throwing the punches taking the hits and move around with no trouble at all.

In training, especially in the begining just a minute or two of sparing would suck your energy, much like you were describing. But if you carried it on for a few months you'd notice a big difference. very good as fitness training, probably the best i've done.

I wasn't a great fighter, just very fit and lucky i reckon. put me in with a guy with better technique or more experience and i would have struggled for sure.

Plus i'm kinda a gentle guy too - i'd rather talk my way out of a situation, violence isn't the best option

I am glad you quit, got out safely. With that sort of nature you were going to get killed.

[Ted Striker]

In the Olympics it is all points driven

In the Professional bouts, it is all KO driven.

We as the audience are generally bloodthirsty and like to see two guys beat the hell out of each other. Therefore points matches are more boring in the pros. It's that whole Roman Christians to the Lions intstinct.

[Sava]

boxing is as much a sport as creationism is science

[Tuberski]

Fights are rarely fixed from the boxer's standpoint. You can make a good case for the lousy scoring that happens a lot.

Boxing is about winning, the only sure way to win is to KO the opponent. Going to the points is, in a lot of cases, a dangerous proposition.

I think that scorers all score differently, so if you don't do something a judge likes, you could be in trouble.

The point system for amatuers, what I saw in the Olympics was even worse.

ACK!

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Pro-wrestling
Mexican pro-wrestling
ameteur boxing
pro boxing

Greco-Roman wresting:

[Ted Striker]

Pankration

[TCO]

amateur boxing like at USNA is all about points. I prefer those bouts because they are more intense. It doesn't seem reasonable to me to have 12 rounds. 3 rounds is enough. It exhausts you like wrestling.

The heavyweights are kinda interesting in the sense of power, but they spend a lot of time leaning on each other. And they don't hold their hands up defensively.

[Pekka]

What Sloww said.

It's a fight, and you're supposed to win it. There are few ways to win it as we all know.

Then of course, many times in amateur boxing it's more about points, where you score a point for a clean hit.

But I'm more into pro boxing, and I think most of us are, who are into boxing, anyway. What's the point of wearing mailboxes in your head, when you're boxing.

So, boxing is about fighting and getting a W to your column. By KO, TKO, ref stoppage, corner throwing the towel in, points, what ever. So yeah, it's about winning and boxing.

So in that sense, pro boxing is the only real way to go for me. Because the objective is to hurt your opponent. Smash them. In amateur boxing, it's too much about getting a shot in, and most of all, avoiding to recieve one. I like the idea of intent to finish the fight. To do damage. Of course not to seriously injure anyone, but to do damage in order to win the fight. But no doubt, even amateur boxing is pretty manly stuff.