Would this be a bill of attainder?
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Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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No. A Bill of Attainder is the legislature declaring a person (or group) to be guilty of a crime and set their punishment without a judicial trial.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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We have two more years of this crap.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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I am afraid this is why he have laws, so they can be changed or amended in the best interests of all parties involved, not just one indvidual but all of them.When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
"It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.
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and this is why america is going down the drain - because power is no longer checked, because laws are being administered by the executive/ legislature instead of the judiciary, and this is why america has started its fall from power, much like rome did 8 centurie ago."Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini
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well put it this way if you were thrown on death row for a crime you didnt commit and the judges couldnt prove that you did indeed not do it would you want the higher ups to intervene or just send you off to die?When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
"It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.
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Put it another way, if you thought some guy was on death row for a crime he DID committ and the judges agreed, and then Congress came along and said he's innocent, wouldn't you be pissed off?
I know I would. And that's why such a law would be unconstitutional under seperation of powers.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Asmodean
This whole case makes me wonder why euthanasia in the form of administered drugs isn't legal all over the world. But that is not the point of this thread.
I will say, that the American Republican Party is the worst gang of moral hypocrites the world has ever seen. They f*ck up time and time again, and the worst thing is that they don't even see it.
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However, Shiavo's parents, the State of Florida, the U.S. Congress and now the President all seek to impose their will upon Terry Shiavo, apparently believing that they know what is best for her better than she does.
This nation was based upon the principle that the individual is the sovereign. However, Congress and the President apparently believe individuals have no rights and there is no limits to federal power as long as there is a majority in both Houses and a Presidential signature.
1984 is arriving ... a generation late, but here is comes.
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Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
well put it this way, if there wasnt a death row you wouldnt have to worry AS MUCH about innocence and guilt.When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
"It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.
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better then death if you are innocent. fact is that the executives jobs is to enforce the law, not make new ones. the legislatures job is to propose new laws, not overturn what the courts say, and the judicials job is to interpret those laws. anything else makes us just as bad as iraq. maybe france should invade us and free us from tyranny."Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini
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Originally posted by Zkribbler
However, Shiavo's parents, the State of Florida, the U.S. Congress and now the President all seek to impose their will upon Terry Shiavo, apparently believing that they know what is best for her better than she does.
This case boils down to a custody dispute between the legal guardian, the husband, and the parents, who dispute what he is trying to do. The danger of this law is that we have the Governor of Florida and then the Federal government interfering in what is a legal case based on Florida law. This whole mess should be settled in state court- and it was. But the parents and idologues who share common ends in this case have gotten together to have other branches of government interfere with the Florida court system.
That is the outrage of this law.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by Zkribbler
Here, Terry Shiavo left explicit written instructions that she was not to be kept alive by way of a feeding tube. Her poor husband is placed in the unenviable position of trying to carry out her orders.
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Originally posted by Zkribbler
Here, Terry Shiavo left explicit written instructions that she was not to be kept alive by way of a feeding tube.
This bill is indeed atrocious and just is evidence that Congress is out of control. They have ZERO right to interfere in this matter, and I have little doubt the Supreme Court will strike this law down in a heartbeat. What a wonderful use of our government's time and resources.Tutto nel mondo è burla
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while I agree with your last post well except the france part. There are two types of courts here in the us. Criminal and federal. Since this isnt a criminal case the feds must intervene. Getting congress involved Ill agree its all about publicity.When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
"It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.
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