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Originally posted by Odin
I am not saying facts are not important, but "what" and "when" needs to be mixed in with "why" and "how" for kids to get a good understanding.
One of the problems is though that the "why" can sometimes be very politicized, and high schools don't want to get into that.
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No, rather the parents come. Have you ever seen a school being sued for teaching the "why" behind, say, an American history event?
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Kidicious
That is a problem, because if you take out the political nature of history you make it boring.
Whose politics win? Conservative parents will be mad when liberal teachers teach politics in history and liberal parents will be mad when conservative teachers teach politics in history. High schools (and lower) realize they can't win. The parents will create major fusses.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by MRT144
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Good. Look around off the beaten path. Maybe you can find something that you like, and that you can maybe make a career of.
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Kid i understand what you are saying most of the kids today are motivated. F*** I cant even do calculus. I barely got out of algebra. But thats not the point here is it I have three kids in school and I have reservations about some of their teaching methods. I havent said anything because they dont tell me how to be a nurse.
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Whose politics win? Conservative parents will be mad when liberal teachers teach politics in history and liberal parents will be mad when conservative teachers teach politics in history. High schools (and lower) realize they can't win. The parents will create major fusses.
A high school social science teacher doesn't want the students to know his or her point of view, because then the students will be afraid to speak up in opposition to that view. You present multiple views on issues and try to get the students to form an opinion, any opinion. It's very hard. They are adverse to forming political opinions, but you can to some extent.
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Originally posted by Kidicious
A high school social science teacher doesn't want the students to know his or her point of view, because then the students be afraid to speak up in opposition to that view. You present multiple views on issues and try to get the students to form an opinion, any opinion. It's very hard. They are adverse to forming political opinions, but you can to some extent.
You've pointed out the stumbling block. Most teachers don't want to do something that hard. It is a VERY thin line in presenting both sides that you don't reveal your own viewpoint. I think it'd be fairly difficult. In later high school years, I think you can talk politics and the kids won't care about your political views, if you are fair to theirs. But in earlier years, it can get thorny as kids ask their parents if x, y, and z are true.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
Kid i understand what you are saying most of the kids today are motivated. F*** I cant even do calculus. I barely got out of algebra. But thats not the point here is it I have three kids in school and I have reservations about some of their teaching methods. I havent said anything because they dont tell me how to be a nurse.
What kind of methods? What classes?
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You've pointed out the stumbling block. Most teachers don't want to do something that hard. It is a VERY thin line in presenting both sides that you don't reveal your own viewpoint. I think it'd be fairly difficult. In later high school years, I think you can talk politics and the kids won't care about your political views, if you are fair to theirs. But in earlier years, it can get thorny as kids ask their parents if x, y, and z are true.
Which is why, unfortunately, history in elementary school is mostly over-simplistic crap and/or nationalistc indoctrination.
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You've pointed out the stumbling block. Most teachers don't want to do something that hard. It is a VERY thin line in presenting both sides that you don't reveal your own viewpoint. I think it'd be fairly difficult. In later high school years, I think you can talk politics and the kids won't care about your political views, if you are fair to theirs. But in earlier years, it can get thorny as kids ask their parents if x, y, and z are true.
You would think so, but you will get so much trouble for the grades you give that any trouble you get for presenting political issues will just be refreshing.
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