The Metal Thread

[Dis]

if it has heavy guitars, it is metal. and yes that includes nu metal. Not all nu metal is bad, just most of it.

[St Leo]

Well, if you are looking hardc0re Jewish Heavy Metal, try the Makkabees. They kick all kinds of ass.

Industrial Metal:
Laibach, Rammstein, Rob Zombie

Death Metal:
Children of Bodom, Fantomas, Finntroll, Nightwish, Tristania

Power Metal:
Freedom Call, Gamma Ray, Hammerfall, Helloween

[Dis]

Originally posted by St Leo
Well, if you are looking hardc0re Jewish Heavy Metal, try the Makkabees. They kick all kinds of ass.

Industrial Metal:
Laibach, Rammstein, Rob Zombie

Death Metal:
Children of Bodom, Fantomas, Finntroll, Nightwish, Tristania

Power Metal:
Freedom Call, Gamma Ray, Hammerfall, Helloween

isn't Nightwish Black Metal? Black metal is not death metal.

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by St Leo
Death Metal:
Children of Bodom, Fantomas, Finntroll, Nightwish, Tristania

You must have been smoking some very interesting sh1t

EDIT: That goes for Diss as well. Nightwish black metal???
"Soft cozy power metal" would be a better term

[Tuberski]

I left my brief stay in metal after Prong and Gruntruck. Believe it or not, Sugar Ray had a serious metal song a long time ago.

Helmet is also good.

ACK!

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by St Leo
Well, if you are looking hardc0re Jewish Heavy Metal, try the Makkabees. They kick all kinds of ass.

I didn't really like the singer, but it was cool party music!
"Ju-metal"

[Dis]

Originally posted by Combat Ingrid


You must have been smoking some very interesting sh1t

EDIT: That goes for Diss as well. Nightwish black metal???
"Soft cozy power metal" would be a better term

actually I have never really listened to Nightwish's music before, but I thought I hear done song, and it sounded like black metal. But it's possible I'm confusing them with someone else.

[Combat Ingrid]

A link for you, Diss

[Dis]

Originally posted by Combat Ingrid
A link for you, Diss

sounds like black/goth metal to me. When you have a chick singing in that goth type voice, I call it black metal.

[Combat Ingrid]

Noone will stop you from doing so. And I will from now on call Dying Fetus a Eurodance band

Compare this to Nightwish. If you listen carefully, you may notice there are some subtle differences

[Sirotnikov]

i like old metal like black sabbath and led zeppelin.

how about goth metal? nightwish, after forever, haggard, withing temptation, sins of thy beloved

or maybe cool power metal which i like, such as sonata arctica, helloween, gamma ray, edguy,

or that i disklike like stratovarius, angra, rhapsody, blind guardian

or prog metal like symphony x and dream theater.

there is of course special categories, like new wave of brittish heavy metal which only includes Diamond Head, and New Wave of Danish Black Metal (iirc) which only includes Mercyful Faith.

[Zoid]

Diss, Black Metal is bands like Burzum, Dimmu Borgir, Belial, Impaled Nazarene and Darkthrone. They usually look like this:



The music is fast and furious chaos and the vocals are unintelligible growls.

Nightwish is symphonic power metal. It´s like comparing a cuddly teddybear to a homocidal wood chipper

[Zoid]

I found a rather lengthy (and extremely pretentious) history of heavy metal. Enjoy!

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/history.html

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
What is actually considered heavy metal these days? Guns and roses were kind and motely crue like jp and metllica but that was in the late eighties and early nineties.

The original "heavy metal" is a thing of the past really. Bands like Accept, Dio, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are typical HM bands. Now the genre has split into a variety of sub-genres, where the HM influence is most visible in Power Metal bands like Hammerfall, Masterplan and Nightwish. But old bands like Entombed has shed their Death Metal skin and moved to a more rock´n roll/HM type of music.

New bands also play classical HM. I heard a swedish band on the radio that I thought were Dio. The singer sounded exactly like Ronnie James and the keyboards and guitar harmonies were Dio style. But to my utter surprise it was an (to me) unknown swedish band...

Genre definition of music is always hard to do. It´s a balance between generalization and academic pickiness

[Namaste]

Eww! Eww! Eww! Don't link to anus.com! That guy is a nutjob. :P

Anyway though, a few things I'll comment on

Laibach is not Industrial metal. Just industrial. They used guitars only on the Jesus Christ Superstars album. A great example of an industrial metal band is Samael.

Nightwish is definitely neither black metal nor death metal but power metal, although they've been moving further away from the power metal sound into more of a general heavy metal direction. They certainly don't belong to any of the extreme metal genres. Black metal isn't characterized by melodic vocals at all, but high pitched screaming.

Children of Bodom are power metal too, they've got a sort-of death-ish vocal delivery, but what defines genres of metal is the guitar playing rather than the vocal style. Tristania, Finntroll, and Fantomas aren't really death metal either. Tristania falls more into gothic doom (which I differentiate from gothic metal which applies more to bands like Moonspell, the Babylon Whores, late Cemetary, Havayoth etc) Finntroll is just weird...would just have to call them folk metal, and Fantomas largely just defies categorization entirely. I'd rather use more typical death metal bands in defining the genre: Entombed, Morbid Angel, Vader, Vital Remains etc.

www.metal-archives.com is a great place for quite accurate genre descriptions of virtually every band that has ever existed. The people on its forum are a bit insane though.

Sirotnikov: If you like Black Sabbath, you should check out bands like Saint Vitus, Trouble, and Witchfinder General. They are classic doom bands and share much in common with Sabbath.