French workers fight for the right to be lazy

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kidicious


According to the dictionary all people are lazy, because they are resistant to work. That's why you have to pay them to do it. But people like Flubber use the word to put people down who aren't like them.

Kidicious-- I know that Goebbels said repeat a lie often enough and people would believe it but I doubt that applies to poly where people can read what I wrote and see that you are lying


Edit-- I find it amusing to be called rich-- thats your assumption and a false one-- all I say is that I am working hard and getting ahead-- so go ahead an paint me as a lazy capitalist sitting back smoking a cigar and reaping his stock dividends-- that would be about as accurate as the rest of what you are saying

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison


Ah yes, the phenomenon of the social climber. I remember at Oxford that people from state school were generally cool, people from middling private schools were stuck up dickheads and people from the really posh private schools (Eton or Harrow for example) were cool too

Fine-- I was the kid at public school as will my children be -- so what??

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Flubber


Kidicious-- I know that Goebbels said repeat a lie often enough and people would believe it but I doubt that applies to poly where people can read what I wrote and see that you are lying

I'm ****ing sick of you making personal attacks on me! You don't ****ing know me. Why don't you just knock it off? If you don't expect to continue to be called a bigot.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kidicious


I'm ****ing sick of you making personal attacks on me! You don't ****ing know me. Why don't you just knock it off? If you don't expect to continue to be called a bigot.

I do know you are lying about me and don't read very well. THats all I am saying about you.




Anyhoo cheerio I have to go make dinner for baby flubber. Its been a hoot.

[Kidlicious]

I don't want to read anything that you write, but when you judge me according to the group that I'm in I'm going to respond. Honestly, I could care less about anything else you have to say.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Flubber


Fine-- I was the kid at public school as will my children be -- so what??

Defensive...I didn't even know you're background, but it does seem to demonstrate something - privelege breeds privelege...

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kidicious
I don't want to read anything that you write, but when you judge me according to the group that I'm in I'm going to respond. Honestly, I could care less about anything else you have to say.

1. Based on your comments you didn't read what I wrote before so why change?

2. My only judgements on you are that you personally are deliberately misconstruing my previous posts. Thats you kidicious and no one else.

3. I make no judgment about "communists" and challenge you again to quote the post. I already quoted my obviously sarcastic one . . . Find another -- any post that says what you purport I say and quote it in its entirety

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison


Defensive...I didn't even know you're background, but it does seem to demonstrate something - privelege breeds privelege...

actually I just wanted you to think I was cool

Seriously though-- saying I went to public school in my town was kind of like saying I breathe oxygen-- there was nothing else -- So no defensiveness-- I just have no frame of reference when it comes to private schools

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Kidicious


I'm ****ing sick of you making personal attacks on me! You don't ****ing know me. Why don't you just knock it off? If you don't expect to continue to be called a bigot.

Dude, buy a new gasket. You seem to have blown one.

[Jaguar]

Kid gets angry when he's losing.




(this is a cue for someone to make the observation that he always gets angry)

[pchang]

Kid is one of 2 posters who regularly have universes named after them.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Jaguar
Kid gets angry when he's losing.

There's no debate taking place here Jaquar.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Oh, btw... thought this MAY be of interest .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4248845.stm

French MPs vote out 35-hour week

French lawmakers have voted in favour of a controversial bill to increase the country's 35-hour working week.

The proposal backed by a large majority allows private-sector employees to work up to 48 hours a week.

The vote followed weeks of protests from trade unions fearing the move may empower companies instead of unions to dictate working hours.

President Chirac's government hopes the Senate will approve the bill next month, after which it would become law.

System revamp

Observers say the 370-180 vote underscores the government's determination to revamp a system that it blames for a stubbornly high unemployment rate and rising labour costs.

French unemployment figures stand at about 10% of the work force amid complaints from private sector companies that the existing system makes them uncompetitive.

It means management will decide the working time, not the employees
Dominique Barbet
Chief economist, BNP Paribas

Other than allowing people to work for up to 48 hours in a week - the EU approved maximum - the proposal also relaxes the overtime limit from 180 hours per year to 220.

Workers' groups, however, are threatening further demonstrations over the plans, arguing that the proposal was the first step towards undermining a social security system consolidated by President Jacques Chirac's socialist predecessor.

Trade unions are taking heart from a recent poll suggesting 69% of people were against longer working hours, correspondents say.

More than 300,000 people marched in protests at the weekend, according to an interior ministry count.

'Weak unions'

However, the unions' power to call strikes in the event of the plans going ahead is limited, believes Dominique Barbet, chief economist at bank BNP Paribas.

"Only 8% of French workers are members of a trade union. Even if they look strong, they are not strong," he told BBC World TV.

"This will mean the end of the shortened working time.

"It means management will decide the working time, not the employees."

Socialist MPs managed to force the vote to be delayed by a day on Tuesday.

But Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin says the government will not be deterred.

The BBC's Caroline Wyatt in Paris says Mr Raffarin's current slogan of "work more to earn more", seems to have become the battle cry in a bitter ideological fight between those who want to protect the French social model and the reformers.

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Nobody answered my question, except chegits with his usual "capitalists are evil so of course they'll force us to work 24/7 if they can even if it means that we'll be less productive and they make less profits" -ad hominem

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kidicious


There's no debate taking place here Jaquar.

Obviously not since tou can't meet my challenge-- what's the problem ? all my posts are still there-- just reference the one where I say what you indicate

I am particulary interested to see indications that I am a -- what was it-- " a closet racist"

Funny that you can call me a bigot, stupid and a racist , I say nothing personal except that you are a liar or lack reading skills and yet you are the one acting all offended. Kidaverse indeed !!!