French workers fight for the right to be lazy

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


If you're short-sided enough only to look at the most immediate effects possible. As we've mentioned, we've been industrializing for over a century and unemployment has probably gone down.

Explain other effects that I haven't mentioned.

Africa. Pwned.

What part of generally don't you understand? There are other factors obviously.

[Kidlicious]

The world unemployment rate is 30% right now according to the world fact book. I just have to find the historicl rate now.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Not if the company goes out of business due to overseas competition that isn't so restricted and has to fire everyone.

Obviously france (and other countries) haven't had this problem, as they are still a prosperous first would country. I guess it's only the efficient and industrious french population that can pull it off though, eh?


You would think they'd all be poor, their country in shambles, their currency in decline, and they'd all be groveling at the feet of american corporations to allow them to work twice the hours for... well, the same ammount.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Explain other effects that I haven't mentioned.

Does it matter? Who cares about theory when you have evidence?

What part of generally don't you understand? There are other factors obviously.

South America. India. China. And so on, and so forth. Third world countries, generally, have the lowest labor costs AND the highest unemployment.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Yay for circular reasoning.

xpost

That's not circular reasoning. It's pointing out the obvious.

[Kuciwalker]

Except that I was demonstrating that a 50-hour workweek wasn't a "debilitating effect". You're saying a 50-hour workweek is bad - why? - because it's a 50-hour workweek, of course.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Does it matter? Who cares about theory when you have evidence?

So you can pick and choose your evidence, and ignore all the rest?

South America. India. China. And so on, and so forth. Third world countries, generally, have the lowest labor costs AND the highest unemployment.

Of course, they are developing countries. The effects of development are greater than the effects of labor costs and globalization.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Except that I was demonstrating that a 50-hour workweek wasn't a "debilitating effect". You're saying a 50-hour workweek is bad - why? - because it's a 50-hour workweek, of course.

I see it's not easy to point out the obvious to you.

I know you like semantics, so let's clear that part up first: I wasn't saying that a 50 hour work week was a debilitating effect itself, nor where you saying that it wasn't one - you where saying that it had none.

Anyways, what I was saying is that the most obvious debilitating effect that comes as a result of it, is that it consumes 50 hours of every week of your able working life.

[Kuciwalker]

That hardly qualifies as debilitating, if it can be done easily without the participant minding.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Kidicious
So you can pick and choose your evidence, and ignore all the rest?

You can introduce any evidence you want, if you think it's incomplete.

Of course, they are developing countries. The effects of development are greater than the effects of labor costs and globalization.

Give an example of a nondeveloping country with very low labor costs.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

Originally posted by Kidicious
So you can pick and choose your evidence, and ignore all the rest?

You can introduce any evidence you want, if you think it's incomplete.

Let me ask you this. Where would you rather build your factory - in Africa or China? People are building factories in China for obvious reason. Don't pretend to be so ignorant.

Give an example of a nondeveloping country with very low labor costs.

What's your point?

[Kuciwalker]

Let me ask you this. Where would you rather build your factory - in Africa or China? People are building factories in China for obvious reason. Don't pretend to be so ignorant.

People are building factories in Africa, too. However, China has a better infrastructure to support industry.

[Kuciwalker]

What's your point?

That you've made a stupid distinction because it doesn't exist in reality.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

Let me ask you this. Where would you rather build your factory - in Africa or China? People are building factories in China for obvious reason. Don't pretend to be so ignorant.

People are building factories in Africa, too. However, China has a better infrastructure to support industry.

Exactly, but one of the reasons they build factories in China is because of the cheap labor. How can you possibly argue otherwise.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

What's your point?

That you've made a stupid distinction because it doesn't exist in reality.

You lost me again.