UPN cancels Star Trek: Enterprise

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Locutus
those antennae are teh coolest

[Zoid]

Originally posted by optimus2861

Well, TNG and VOY's first seasons both stunk (but then all of VOY stunk IMO) so they're no competition. But ENT-1 better than TOS-1 or DS9-1? Not from my seat. I couldn't even get through all of ENT-1 before giving up on the show outright -- it put me to sleep something like three weeks in a row ("Rogue Planet" was the last straw). TOS-1 is simply superb ("Where No Man Has Gone Before", "Balance of Terror", "Tomorrow is Yesterday" "Space Seed", "A Taste of Armageddon", "The Devil in the Dark", "Errand of Mercy", and last but not least "The City on the Edge of Forever") , and DS9-1 was a solid start to that series, though DS9 really didn't get a full head of steam until season three.

ENT got two more seasons than it deserved. Hopefully we've seen the last of Rick Berman/Brannon Braga-style Star Trek, abomination that it is.

I liked Enterprise because it felt new and fresh after the stale Voyager. It didn´t hold up, but I still rank it as the best first season of ST series.

[GePap]

DS( worked because they did the story of one crucial place in the Star Trek Universe and could do a long stoyline about how the whole thing works, including how the Federation would try ton include new worlds. That is why it worked so well.

Imagine a show post Dominion War centerd around exploration after the Federation developed an experiemental transwarp drive? You could go as far as leaving the milky way and leave the whole thing and no need to worry about Borgs or anything else, start completely fresh. And of course, unlike in Voyager, you can go back.

[Shogun Gunner]

Hmmm.... looking over the rest of the UPN lineup these are the shows that I'll watch.

1. Remaining new Enterprise episodes
2. Reruns of Enterprise epidosdes that I missed
3. ...

F U UPN. I'm deleting you from my channel display view in my TIVO units. Your network sucks. I'm would rather watch "Ready, Steady, Cook" on BBC2. Die, Die DIE.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Starchild


Vorta. Weyun is a Vorta. Hortas are silicon based life that live underground.

Oops! Sorry, my bad.

As for the question, though I do love toadies, I like my followers with a touch of steel in them. I'd let Kai Wynn bow down any day.

Yes, but when Weyun would refer to his Founder boss as "a god" you could almost vicariously feel the tremor in his voice reach down to his spine. I mean, most people don't have that much passion during orgasms. Imagine the head trip.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
Hmmm.... looking over the rest of the UPN lineup these are the shows that I'll watch.

1. Remaining new Enterprise episodes
2. Reruns of Enterprise epidosdes that I missed
3. ...

And that is UPN's problem... because most people wouldn't even agree with you on 1 & 2

[Dr Strangelove]

I demand repeats of Babylon 5 and DS 9, and I don't mean in the early afternoon or after midnight.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Locutus


It would be nice as a gimmick for a few episodes or a TV movie, but I highly doubt it would survive as a full-blown show. Viewers need to be able to identify with the characters to continue to tune in every week, something which is very hard to achieve if they're completely alien to them. The only way to make it work is to really tone down and 'humanise' the characters (basically make them humans with pointed ears, a la pre-S4 T'Pol), but that would just nullify the whole concept.

I'd still love to see it though, but with Andorians: those antennae are teh coolest

Nonsense, the cardasian and ferengi characters in DS9 where some of the most interesting ones in the show. actually, there was only 3 or so main characters that where human, I think.

[Q Classic]

And that is UPN's problem... because most people wouldn't even agree with you on 1 & 2

And most of those people were fairly die-hard trekkies, too.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Starchild


Vorta. Weyun is a Vorta. Hortas are silicon based life that live underground.

As for the question, though I do love toadies, I like my followers with a touch of steel in them. I'd let Kai Wynn bow down any day.

Holy ****!

I was gonna post a nerd alert when I saw Strangelove's post but then you topped it.


P.S. I know that you have a sense of humour. I added the winky-smilie-thingie for those that dont (and I seem to have found more than a few around here lately).

[Shogun Gunner]

Originally posted by Q Cubed

And that is UPN's problem... because most people wouldn't even agree with you on 1 & 2

And most of those people were fairly die-hard trekkies, too.

Maybe that explains something. I'm not a trekkie and I liked Enterprise....

I did not like the time causality stuff or the NAZI episode. Other than that, it's a pretty cool show, and I still think that regardless how many people post that the show sucks.

[optimus2861]

Originally posted by Kamrat X
I liked Enterprise because it felt new and fresh after the stale Voyager. It didn´t hold up, but I still rank it as the best first season of ST series.

Why? What episodes did ENT have in its first season that even come close to any of the first-season TOS episodes I named? I'll excuse you from having to come up with a "City on the Edge of Forever", but can ENT even match a "Space Seed" or "The Devil in the Dark"?

"Dear Doctor" was OK, but it's got some questionable science and Archer's big speech to Phlox is way too Prime Directive-influenced considering there isn't a Prime Directive yet. "Shuttlepod One" was a good character piece but doesn't even need the Star Trek setting to work. "The Andorian Incident" is probably the closest to a TOS S1 level, though the ending didn't work for me, specifically Archer's decision (he really doesn't know **** about the broader issues between Vulcan and Andoria, yet forces the Vulcans to divulge secret information to Andoria without giving any thought to how that will play out or what the ramifications might be for Earth).

[Shogun Gunner]

wow.

Maybe it's good that i don't know too much about other Star Treks.

More Star Trek knowledge = less enjoyment of watching Star Trek.

I guess it's good that UPN is stopping me now anyway.

[Dis]

Originally posted by BeBro
Please no show from a Klingon POV. I'm fed up with all those stupid Klingon rituals. First it was a good idea to have them their own cultural identity, but they overdid it IMO....

bah! Klingons rule! I should challenge you to a duel (I can't remember what the Klingon ritual name is).

And their blade weapons are cool.

[korn469]

If they made a new Star Trek I'd like to see it about a mixed group of humans and aliens, but the big catch would be that they are either Pirate or Privateers. Possibly they could have a base in an area like the neutral zone, and strike out at the federation, romulans, klingons, whoever. It could be really cool if they set it between TOS and TNG.