UPN cancels Star Trek: Enterprise

[Aabraxan]

I'm kinda sorry to see Enterprise go. I didn't watch it all that regularly, but I thought it was decent. While I may draw some fire for this, I have to admit that I hated the original. Still can't stand to watch it. But I liked TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise. Only rarely watched DS9, so I can't say.

The cancellation that really got me a couple of years ago, though, was Farscape. It's not UPN or ST, but it was, in my opinion, the best sci-fi series ever. Period. The SciFi channel cancelled Farscape, but kept such gems as Tremors and Knight Rider . . . Go figure.

[Boris Godunov]

Farscape was cancelled because it was way too expensive to produce and had abysmal ratings. I blame the channel for the horrible time slot, but a lot of blame has to go to audiences afraid of intelligent, complex, well-written scifi just because it's an "unknown" name.

Fortunately, BSG is shaping up to take over Farscape's mantle for well-written scifi. It's enjoying better ratings as of now, and has the advantage of being a well-known name. We will see!

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Garth Vader
If this had been the first or second season of Enterprise and there never had been any "temporal cold war/xindi/alien Nazi" crap I would be disappointed. Now I am only going to miss nitpicking the show.

I also wasn't fond to the temporal war/nazi crap. I missed a few episodes around then. But this season I really enjoyed the augments and the return of the interspecies rivalry-- The Andorians and Tellerites are fun and I think you could do a lot with the Vulcans and Romulans as well. They are all somewhat familiar yet never deeply explored. The possible storylines are incredible.

I remember a TOS novel I read about 20 years ago, told from the perspective of a female starfleet officer who was rescued/captured by a Klingon officer (maybe Kang ??) after a natural disaster on Sherman's Planet and taken into servitude by him ( as was their custom if somone saved your life. She travelled to several Klingon planets that were experiencing famine due to a blight on their predominant grain and experienced a diversity of cultures. It was a book I thoroughly enjoyed and I wished the TV show could have done more of that

[Aabraxan]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Farscape was cancelled because it was way too expensive to produce and had abysmal ratings.

I know. Still sucks.

I blame the channel for the horrible time slot, but a lot of blame has to go to audiences afraid of intelligent, complex, well-written scifi just because it's an "unknown" name.

For a while, Farscape had a 7 or 8 o'clock, Friday night slot. But I do seem to remember them moving it from that slot at some point.

Fortunately, BSG is shaping up to take over Farscape's mantle for well-written scifi. It's enjoying better ratings as of now, and has the advantage of being a well-known name. We will see!

I assume that BSG is Battlestar Galactica. I watched the opening miniseries and was not impressed. However, I'm sure I'll give it another look. I don't hold tremendously high hopes, however.

[Q Classic]

enterprise

voyager was tolerable, at best. it did have some potential... but they squandered it with:
1. The neverending supply of shuttles.
2. Pekka the SUPERSHUTTLE!
3. Barbie of Nine.
4. Giving the Borg a personality.
5. Making Q not so much a bastard.
6. Bad writing.

Enterprise... Honestly, I just never was able to warm up to it as a Star Trek series. I personally think that had they divorced it entirely, I might have given it more of a chance... but the way it was set up, I didn't like its entire feel. You have the Vulcan sexpot, which I didn't like; you've got the ship looking too "new"~ ( in TNG and what not, old federation ships had spherical fronts... as well as this ship having all sorts of flat panels, looking like a post-DS9 Akira-class starship ); you have Vulcans being asswipes ( yeah, yeah, that Suranite bull****... ); a few continuity issues ( Ferengis, Borg... ).

The few times I did watch it after that disasterous first season, I wasn't impressed. Didn't like psycho-Soong, with his stupid "OMFG genes are good, NO WAIT, CYBERNETICS!!!!! ^__^ kekekeke" arc; thought space-nazis were better left to B-movie schlock, not Star Trek.

I can deal with them turning Star Trek away from drama and more into action. I followed them doing that with DS9. What I don't like is them turning it into some fscking soap opera with gratuitous gel-rubbing scenes on a "voluptuous" woman who's supposed to be an "ice-cold alien *****". Again, combination of "ice-cold alien *****" + "voluptuous" is better left to B-movie schlock like Species.

I'm glad its dead. Like Penny Arcade said...

[Ned]

One of the things I liked about Voyager was that it got back to the basic principles of the original show: exploration. The original show had very little to do with politics of the Federation vs. Klingon Empire or the Romulans. Similarly, Voyager had nothing to do with such politics, being in the Delta quadrant. What Voyager did run into, though, were politics in the Delta quadrant, which was very interesting at times.

I think the next series ought to return to the roots of the original show, with a starship on a "Five-year mission seek out ..., and go, where no man has gone before."

[Dis]

that's what Enterprise was supposed to be. They screwed it up.

[Sandman]

Let it rest for about a decade. Then remake it from scratch, like, say, Batman.

And make it more violent. What noticeable about some of the movies (KHAN!!!) is that people actually bleed in them, instead of getting bloodless injuries - 'plasma burns' and so on.

[Dis]

or they could make a show about a Klingon ship. I think that would be cool. Though it would have to be unrealistic and have them speak English. I'd get tired of hearing Klingon on all the time. A very harsh sounding language.

And the show couldn't be a goody two shoes show either (though I'm sure the crappy writers will find a way to turn it into one.). These are Klingons. They are supposed to be imperialistic and ruthless.

[Sandman]

Yes. Don't the Romulans and Klingons have slave races that do all their dirty work? How come we never see them?

[General Ludd]

Yeah, a star trek show from an alien perspective could ber eally cool.

[Gatekeeper]

Temporal Cold War.

Enough said.

Gatekeeper

P.S. Although to be fair, I did think ENT improved in S3 with the Xindi plot and had shown even more promise with current S4 episodes. Too little, too late.

[pchang]

Originally posted by Dissident
or they could make a show about a Klingon ship. I think that would be cool. Though it would have to be unrealistic and have them speak English. I'd get tired of hearing Klingon on all the time. A very harsh sounding language.

And the show couldn't be a goody two shoes show either (though I'm sure the crappy writers will find a way to turn it into one.). These are Klingons. They are supposed to be imperialistic and ruthless.

A cool thing would be if they patched in clips from the original series to show the Klingons continually thwarted by that Federation war criminal Capt. Kirk.

[BeBMan]

Please no show from a Klingon POV. I'm fed up with all those stupid Klingon rituals. First it was a good idea to have them their own cultural identity, but they overdid it IMO....

[Locutus]

Originally posted by General Ludd
Yeah, a star trek show from an alien perspective could ber eally cool.

It would be nice as a gimmick for a few episodes or a TV movie, but I highly doubt it would survive as a full-blown show. Viewers need to be able to identify with the characters to continue to tune in every week, something which is very hard to achieve if they're completely alien to them. The only way to make it work is to really tone down and 'humanise' the characters (basically make them humans with pointed ears, a la pre-S4 T'Pol), but that would just nullify the whole concept.

I'd still love to see it though, but with Andorians: those antennae are teh coolest