Is this another anti-american campaign? Hey, last time I checked, it wasn't bush raping little kids, so let's make fun of the pope, okay...
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I guess it really is true that there is no idea so stupid that you won't be able to find someone on the internet to defend it.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Originally posted by Cruddy
I'm not saying DU ammunition is a totallysafe weapon of war but;
1) It's only toxic when powderized, and then it tends to hang around the target (high density = short distance travalled). Yes, battlefields should be (and these days, are) sanitized as soon as possible to stop the locals climbing around old hulks and getting contaminated.
2) Everybody uses it, not just the US. Why not go haranuge some Russians about Chechnya?Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Boris does some pwnage.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by laurentius
Educate yourself about this, then come back. The leukemia cases alone are 8 times as high now in Baghdad than before 2003.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Kidicious
I think Che has a better understanding of the average American Joe. Boris is a bit naive, although definitely there were inocent people killed that day. Christ, there were children in the building!
Too bad comrade UberKrux isn't here to see his late father maligned as little Eichmann. I'm sure he'd enjoy that.Tutto nel mondo è burla
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I don't need anyone to tell me how honorable and good Americans are either. As I've already stated, many who died that day were surely good people. Probably most of them were careless, self-centered people who think that America is always right, no matter what, and don't care what anyone has to say about it.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Anytime anyone wants to malign anything, they simply call them Nazis. Its getting a little boring. Why is everyone so intellectually lazy when it comes to insulting people? Little Eichmans? Get real.I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka
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However, I don't think saying the victims deserved it is a sane argument. They were most of all innocent to the pushing in the first place. Yes they pay taxes but I buy Coca Cola so I would have deserved it the same then.
Here we have a war crimes against humanity and a just retaliation.
Even the "innocent" Iraqis who died as a result of this invasion (or because of sanctions) weren't really innocent because their leader(s) committed crimes against humanity.
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As for what he wrote, it has some merit. Most of the people in the WTC were not completely innocent, but rather engaged in global trade, which is what drives the U.S. to do things like bomb and starve Iraq (and while Winston might object that it was the U.N. that imposed the sanctions, by the late 90s, it was the certainty of a U.S. veto that kept them from being dismantled), overthrow Central American democracies, prop up various dictators around the world, etc.
It is in the interests of the traders in the WTC that the World Bank, the WTO, the IMF, impose heavy economic burdens on the people of the 3rd world, burdens which kill millions annually.
They may not be the one's pulling the trigger, but they are th ones for whom the trigger is pulled and they are the ones who manipulate the market so that the weak perish.
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Originally posted by Kidicious
I think Che has a better understanding of the average American Joe. Boris is a bit naive, although definitely there were inocent people killed that day. Christ, there were children in the building!
I'm quite fond of certain of the principles of Anglo-Saxon Common Law, which as I'm sure you'd agree, the United States government has certainly been complicit in circumventing, certainly with regard to say the internees at Guantanamo:
the presumption of innocence, innocent until proven guilty, habeas corpus, et cetera.
I don't recall either the passengers on the airliners nor the people (working class, middle class, upper class- the dead are all one class) in the Trade Centre buildings nor in the Pentagon being given the benefits that I'd extend to the detainees in 'occupied' Cuba.
Two wrongs don't make the world right, they just add to the sum of the world's woes.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
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Originally posted by Kidicious
I don't need anyone to tell me how honorable and good Americans are either. As I've already stated, many who died that day were surely good people. Probably most of them were careless, self-centered people who think that America is always right, no matter what, and don't care what anyone has to say about it.Blah
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Why dont you actually learn something about what happened in '48, instead of making illogical remarks?
The UN found no evidence of genocide in Darfur. You do. They've got a helluva lot more info than you have.Live with it.
You find no evidence of genocide in Palestine. There's a helluva lot of Arabs that disagree with you. Again, they've got a helluva lot info than you. Live with it.
C'mon now, reach behind, down... yeah, that's your butt.
Or is my humour too subtle for you?Last edited by Cruddy; February 3, 2005, 09:31.Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
"The CIA does nothing, says nothing, allows nothing, unless its own interests are served. They are the biggest assembly of liars and theives this country ever put under one roof and they are an abomination" Deputy COS (Intel) US Army 1981-84
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Originally posted by Kidicious
I think Che has a better understanding of the average American Joe. Boris is a bit naive, although definitely there were inocent people killed that day. Christ, there were children in the building!"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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